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<font face="Comic Sans MS">I don't know what these are. All I've
found online is a few posts where the writers are speculating
these usenet index files and the rar archives with the cryptic
names may be an attempt to thwart the people who send out DMCA
takedown demands to usenet indexing sites. This approach would
make the MPAA have to download the file before they could find out
what's in it. This would be a lot slower than looking at
something like doctor.who.s07e10.720p.mkv and knowing instantly
what it is. I guess the could be backup files. I hadn't thought
of that. Encrypt your data in rar files, include lots of par2
files and post your backup to usenet. A usenet account can be had
for $10 or $20 a month and the backups are good for several
years. If the usenet server you pick goes out of business, sign
up with another and get access to your data.<br>
<br>
I think I'll download one of these rar files and see if I can find
out what's in it.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/30/2013 07:37 PM, Lisa Kachold
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:CAEYqmRsX0Z7tSBPhF4qoVQCM3=qBQkXwrrM5tLm6LevxYdKZVw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Hey Derek,<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Derek
Trotter <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:expat.arizonan@gmail.com" target="_blank">expat.arizonan@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">These usenet index posts
and the files they point to are something
new. Any I've seen only go back a few weeks. Normally a
usenet
post would have a subject that gave some clue as to what is
in that
post.</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Well, they do or must have such - a post can't exist
without it.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Excerpt:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<h2
style="background-image:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-weight:normal;margin:0px
0px
0.6em;overflow:hidden;padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:0.17em;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(170,170,170);font-size:19px;font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.1875px"><span
class="mw-headline" id="Types_of_newsgroups">Types of
newsgroups</span> <span class="mw-editsection"
style="font-size:small;margin-left:1em;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:1em;display:inline-block">[<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usenet_newsgroup&action=edit§ion=1"
title="Edit section: Types of newsgroups"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">edit</a>]</span></h2>
<p style="margin:0.4em 0px
0.5em;line-height:19.1875px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Newsgroups
generally come in either of two types, binary or text. There
is no technical difference between the two, but the naming
differentiation allows users and servers with limited
facilities to minimize network bandwidth usage. Generally,
Usenet conventions and rules are enacted with the primary
intention of minimizing the overall amount of network traffic
and resource usage. Typically, the newsgroup is focused on a
particular topic of interest. Some newsgroups allow the
posting of messages on a wide variety of themes, regarding
anything a member chooses to discuss as <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-topic"
title="On-topic" class="mw-redirect"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">on-topic</a>, while others keep more strictly to
their particular subject, frowning on <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-topic"
title="Off-topic" class="mw-redirect"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">off-topic</a> postings. The news admin (the
administrator of a <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_server" title="News
server"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">news server</a>) decides how long articles are kept
on his server before being expired (deleted). Different
servers will have different retention times for the same
newsgroup; some may keep articles for as little as one or two
weeks, others may hold them for many months. Some admins keep
articles in local or technical newsgroups around longer than
articles in other newsgroups.</p>
<p style="margin:0.4em 0px
0.5em;line-height:19.1875px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Back
when the early community was the pioneering computer society,
the common habit seen with many articles was a notice at the
end disclosed if the author was free of, or had a conflict of
interest, or had any financial motive, or axe to grind, in
posting about any product or issue. This is seen much less
now, and the reader must read skeptically, just like in
society, besides all the privacy or <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phishing"
title="Phishing"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">phishing</a> issues.</p>
<p style="margin:0.4em 0px
0.5em;line-height:19.1875px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">There
are currently well over 110,000 Usenet newsgroups, but only
20,000 or so of those are active.<sup class="Template-Fact"
style="line-height:1em;white-space:nowrap">[<i><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"
title="Wikipedia:Citation needed"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial"><span title="This claim needs references to
reliable sources. (June 2010)">citation needed</span></a></i>]</sup> Newsgroups
vary in popularity, with some newsgroups only getting a few
posts a month while others get several hundred (and in a few
cases a couple of thousand) messages a day.</p>
<p style="margin:0.4em 0px
0.5em;line-height:19.1875px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Non-Usenet
newsgroups are possible and do occur, as private individuals
or organizations set up their own NNTP servers. Examples
include the newsgroups<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft"
title="Microsoft"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">Microsoft</a> runs to allow peer-to-peer support of
their products and those at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow" class="external free"
href="news://news.grc.com"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);background-image:url(data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAoAAAAKCAYAAACNMs+9AAAAe0lEQVR4Xo2QQQqAIBBFPbDXCKJTGCTRIqJN7qL2gp5BcOEpJmZgAlEp4eHiP/8Min7o4A8kfpxclFJmpJRAKVWIGNQoRHzNcBtSF6/7pDuEwDQbWaw20ijnPGGtffHOU0bitq9gzAExRmwqwGxeNAgAEJMeWx9Ne6PzAI3dPZAGO1zBAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC);padding-right:13px;background-repeat:no-repeat
no-repeat">news://news.grc.com</a>.</p>
<h3
style="background-image:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);margin:0px
0px
0.3em;overflow:hidden;padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:0.17em;border-bottom-style:none;font-size:17px;font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.1875px"><span
class="mw-headline" id="Binary_newsgroups">Binary newsgroups</span> <span
class="mw-editsection"
style="font-size:small;font-weight:normal;margin-left:1em;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:1em;display:inline-block">[<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usenet_newsgroup&action=edit§ion=2"
title="Edit section: Binary newsgroups"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">edit</a>]</span></h3>
<p style="margin:0.4em 0px
0.5em;line-height:19.1875px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">While
newsgroups were not created with the intention of distributing
binary files, they have proven to be quite effective for this.
Because of the way they work, a file uploaded once will be
spread and can then be downloaded by an unlimited number of
users. More useful is that every user is drawing on the
bandwidth of his or her own news server. This means that
unlike <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer"
title="Peer-to-peer"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">P2P</a> technology, the user's download speed is
under his or her own control, as opposed to under the
willingness of other people to share files. In fact, this is
another benefit of newsgroups: it is usually not expected that
users share. If every user makes uploads then the servers
would be flooded; thus it is acceptable and often encouraged
for users to just <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leech_%28computing%29"
title="Leech (computing)"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">leech</a>.</p>
<p style="margin:0.4em 0px
0.5em;line-height:19.1875px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">There
were originally a number of obstacles to the transmission of
binary files over Usenet. First, Usenet was designed with the
transmission of text in mind. Consequently, for a long period
of time, it was impossible to send binary data as it was. So,
a workaround, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuencode"
title="Uuencode" class="mw-redirect"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">Uuencode</a> (and later on <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base64" title="Base64"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">Base64</a> and <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YEnc" title="YEnc"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">yEnc</a>), was developed which mapped the binary
data from the files to be transmitted (e.g. sound or video
files) to text characters which would survive transmission
over Usenet. At the receiver's end, the data needed to be
decoded by the user's <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_client" title="News
client" class="mw-redirect"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">news client</a>. Additionally, there was a limit on
the size of individual posts such that large files could not
be sent as single posts. To get around this, Newsreaders were
developed which were able to split long files into several
posts. Intelligent newsreaders at the other end could then
automatically group such split files into single files,
allowing the user to easily retrieve the file. These advances
have meant that Usenet is used to send and receive many <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terabytes"
title="Terabytes" class="mw-redirect"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">terabytes</a> of files per day.</p>
<p style="margin:0.4em 0px
0.5em;line-height:19.1875px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">There
are two main issues that pose problems for transmitting binary
files over newsgroups. The first is <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Completion_rate"
title="Completion rate"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">completion rates</a> and the other is <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retention_rate"
title="Retention rate"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">retention rates</a>. The business of premium <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_server" title="News
server"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">news servers</a> is generated primarily on their
ability to offer superior completion and retention rates, as
well as their ability to offer very fast connections to users.
Completion rates are significant when users wish to download
large files that are split into pieces; if any one piece is
missing, it is impossible to successfully download and
reassemble the desired file. To work around the problem, a
redundancy scheme known as <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parchive"
title="Parchive"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">PAR</a> is commonly used.</p>
<p style="margin:0.4em 0px
0.5em;line-height:19.1875px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">A
number of websites exist for the purpose of keeping an index
of the files posted to binary newsgroups.</p>
<p style="margin:0.4em 0px
0.5em;line-height:19.1875px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Major
NSPs have a retention time of more than 1700 days.<sup
id="cite_ref-1" class="reference" style="line-height:1em"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_newsgroup#cite_note-1"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;white-space:nowrap;background-repeat:initial
initial">[1]</a></sup> This results in more than 9 <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petabyte"
title="Petabyte"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">petabytes</a> (9000 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terabyte"
title="Terabyte"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial
initial">terabytes</a>) of storage.<sup id="cite_ref-2"
class="reference" style="line-height:1em"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_newsgroup#cite_note-2"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;white-space:nowrap;background-repeat:initial
initial">[2]</a></sup></p>
<div><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px">In
part because of such long retention times, as well as
growing Internet</span><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uploading_and_downloading"
title="Uploading and downloading" class="mw-redirect"
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none">upload</a><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px"> </span><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px">speeds,
Usenet is also used by individual users to store</span><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup" title="Backup"
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none">backup</a><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px"> </span><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px">data
in a practice called</span><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px"> </span><i
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px">Usenet
backup</i><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px">,
or uBackup.</span><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"
style="font-family:sans-serif;line-height:1em"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_newsgroup#cite_note-3"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;white-space:nowrap;background-repeat:initial
initial">[3]</a></sup><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px"> </span><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px">While
commercial providers offer more</span><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ease_of_use" title="Ease
of use" class="mw-redirect"
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none">easy
to use</a><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_online_backup_services"
title="List of online backup services" class="mw-redirect"
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none">online
backup services</a><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px">,
storing data on Usenet is free of charge (although access to
Usenet itself may not be). The method requires the user to</span><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup#Data_repository_models"
title="Backup"
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none">manually
select, prepare and upload the data</a><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px">.
Because anyone can potentially download the backup files,
the data is typically</span><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encryption"
title="Encryption"
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none">encrypted</a><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px">.
After the files are uploaded, the uploader does not have any
control over them; the files are automatically copied to all
Usenet providers, so there will be multiple copies of it
spread over different geographical locations around the
world.</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Are you sure these are not just backup files? </div>
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<div>On 06/30/2013 10:15 AM, Lisa Kachold
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>Hello Derek,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_newsgroup"
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_newsgroup</a><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at
11:41 PM, Derek
Trotter <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:expat.arizonan@gmail.com"
target="_blank">expat.arizonan@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Tonight
I'm messing
with a usenet reader and found something I've
never seen
before. There are posts each with a subject
like this.
Usenet Index Post 1372363474_2 These are text
files.
Open one and you'll see something like this:<br>
<br>
Vv0smCatI4I08qoLd815 -
Vv0smCatI4I08qoLd815.par2 yEnc
(1/1)%122935*Vv0smCatI4I08qoLd815
-Vv0smCatI4I08qoLd815.part001.rar
yEnc(1/622)%217941490*Vv0smCatI4I08qoLd815
-Vv0smCatI4I08qoLd815.part002.rar
yEnc(1/622)%217922437*Vv0smCatI4I08qoLd815
-Vv0smCatI4I08qoLd815.part003.rar
yEnc(1/622)%217938677*Vv0smCatI4I08qoLd815 - <br>
<br>
The poster is always, as far as I can tell
NzbIndexder@followed by the name of the group
they're posted in. Forexample: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:NzbIndexer@alt.binaries.teevee"
target="_blank">NzbIndexer@alt.binaries.teevee</a><br>
<br>
Then I'll find posts with names like
this:Vv0smCatI4I08qoLd815.part170.rar<br>
<br>
I've seen people here give me tips on usenet
harvesting so
I'll ask if any of you how I can use these
usenet indexposts? I've read that some usenet
indexing sites havebeen forced to shut down.
I'm guessing these files are anattempt to get
around the people who are trying to shutdown
the usenet indexing sites. The names of the
rar
files give no clue as to what's in them. If
you don't
know ahead of time what's in these files the
only way to
find out is to download one, which may be
several GB in
size.<br>
<br>
Does anyone know how to use these files?<br>
<br>
Thanks<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Derek<br>
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"I get my copy of the daily paper, look at the obituaries page, and if I’m not there, I carry on as usual."
Patrick Moore</pre>
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