<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><br>Is marketing the goal. I used to belong to a Christian men's group that turned it focus to membership. Some left. I was one of them. There efforts have been in vain.<br><br>I've been on this list for maybe 13 years. It has been a great resource. I've learned a lot from you guys and you have helped me understand things that I was struggling with.<br><br>I always thought that is why the list existed - a place to share and help. <br><br>I'm not sure how more structure would help those new comers and how less structure would impede growth.<br><br>I watched a documentary recently and the guy said the first question is do you restrict freedom or is more freedom the solution.<br><br>If we do nothing the list grows organically and adapts to whatever is ahead of us. If we try to manage that process we may and probably
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Keith Smith<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 6/12/13, Lisa Kachold <i><lisakachold@obnosis.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Lisa Kachold <lisakachold@obnosis.com><br>Subject: Re: Off Topic Discussions<br>To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org><br>Date: Wednesday, June 12, 2013, 9:16 PM<br><br><div id="yiv85327205">Well, <div><br></div><div>If you change nothing and the world changes, you no longer attract people involved with new techniques and ideas.<br><br><div class="yiv85327205gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Derek Trotter <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:expat.arizonan@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=expat.arizonan@gmail.com">expat.arizonan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On 06/12/2013 04:40 PM,
<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:joe@actionline.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=joe@actionline.com">joe@actionline.com</a> wrote:<br>
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<pre><div><div class="yiv85327205h5">I vote for keeping the PLUG list exactly the way it is.
It works just fine.
So what if there is occasional digression.
A little digression is often interesting ... (up to a point).
As long as "Off Topics" are plainly marked "OT," let it be.
As JD (and others) noted, we all have a delete key and the
ability to filter topics or individuals if/as desired.
Also, a polite private note is usually a much better remedy
than public thrashing over perceived offenses.
Thank y'all for this great PLUG community.
</div></div></pre></blockquote></div></blockquote><div>I have seen a very few changes create a large amount of action.</div><div>However if we are arguing on/off topic discussion, I put it to you that "all the people who used to post here" have now gone to better sources with their questions, like Fedora.org or Ubuntu Forums or learned to search (which provides 97% of the answers pretty quickly if/when you learn to read for context.</div>
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