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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/06/2013 08:04 PM, Nathan England
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        -qt-user-state:0;">During the antitrust trials it came out that
        the NSA has had a back door into Microsoft for years. We all
        know the NSA has a back door into Linux with the Selinux code...</p>
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    Is it possible to use encryption software (pgp, truecrypt, etc)
    without selinux or in such a way the selinux backdoor isn't a
    problem?<br>
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        -qt-user-state:0;">Why not encryption stuff? I'm sure it's there
        and we just don't know it yet. Doesn't one of the guys who
        created RSA work for the NSA? Or am I thinking of someone else?</p>
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        plant!</duck></p>
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        -qt-user-state:0;">Nathan<br>
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        On Thursday, June 06, 2013 04:59:56 PM Derek Trotter wrote:<br>
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          country is looking less and less like a free country every
          day.  I read a few days ago that the FBI wants a back door to
          all encryption software.  Some may think they're doing nothing
          illegal, they have nothing to hide, but the way the IRS and
          EPA are harassing B.O.'s opponents proves that notion wrong.<br>
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        -qt-user-state:0;">On 06/06/2013 03:24 PM, Eric Cope wrote:<br>
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        -qt-user-state:0;">wow, just wow. </p>
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