<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><br>Yes!! What a great thread. <br><br>My new box has a 3rd generation i3 and 8gb of RAM. It is LAMP exclusively - public facing web server. Over kill for what I am doing. In a nutshell I should run the 64bit version. This is an experiment and a vehicle for learning. So far it has exceeded my expectations. <br><br>Thank you to all that responded, this thread holds a wealth of knowledge!!<br><br>I'm starting a new thread on how AMD and Intel manage memory. <br><br>Thanks again for such a great thread!!<br><br>------------------------<br>
Keith Smith<br><br>--- On <b>Sat, 6/1/13, Stephen <i><cryptworks@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Stephen <cryptworks@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: 32bit vs 64bit Linux<br>To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org><br>Date: Saturday, June 1, 2013, 1:18 PM<br><br><div id="yiv808544800">Thats some good reading. This week has been a great week. They just added my router to ddwrt. Ubuntu touch just got built for my phone... And i might be able to get away with a Linux work environment...<span></span><br><br>
On Saturday, June 1, 2013, Lisa Kachold wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv808544800gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Stephen,<br><br><div class="yiv808544800gmail_quote">On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Stephen <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">How well does it play with Cisco as an alternative to the anyconnect application?</p></blockquote><div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">You don't *have* to use the Cisco provided client (as you already well know) there's VPNC as well, which works *very* well under linux, and is insanely easy to build, configure and run.</span></div>
<div> </div><div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Generally, OpenVPN is a SSL VPN and Cisco uses IPSEC, but that doesn't mean it's not possible. </span><span style=""><span style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Most all of Cisco's newer VPN offerings support SSL VPN.</span><span style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> </span></span></div>
<div><br></div><div><span style=""><span style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Do you have a specific Cisco VPN device in mind? Or do you mean any Cisco VPN device?</span><br style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">
<br style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><span style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">If you mean a VPN 3000 concentrator, I would say no.</span><br style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">
<span style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">If you mean an ASA device, I would say yes.</span><br style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><span style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">If you mean a IOS device, I would say maybe. (Depending on version and a good deal of tinkering)</span><br style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">
<span style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">If you mean a PIX device, I would say maybe. (Depending on version and a good deal of banging head against wall</span></span><span style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(207,217,255);">)</span></div>
<div><br></div><div><i><b>Technically "it's not supported". But the "not supported" tag (primarily used to reduce costs of large businesses trying to train their non-technical customers to use anything more complex than an off/on button) is clearly not any limitation for linux people? </b></i></div>
<div><br></div><div>Just go with a Cisco compatible client!</div><div><br></div><div>OpenConnect is still a very good product, and I would choose it over Cisco's client any day! </div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/">http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Also, you can allow OpenVPN through the cisco firewall and run both IPSEC and SSL VPN, by getting a nice OpenVPNAS Virtual Appliance, you will be up and running in 1/2 hour, plus your users can go right to the VPN server and authenticate and download their clients without any big fuss. Just because you have a Cisco VPN available, doesn't mean you must use that IPSEC virtual private tunnel exclusively. Once you allow SSL VPN, you can use a quick setup OpenVPN AS Server: </div>
<div><br></div><div>Here's what the OpenVPN Access Server looks like: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://12.159.65.84/?src=connect">https://12.159.65.84/?src=connect</a> PLUG HackFest VPN services for Labs in the DeVry Rack at OneNeck Hosting.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Reference: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/vpnc/">http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/vpnc/</a></div><div>Installation Reference vpnc Ubuntu: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/information-services/services/computing/desktop-personal/vpn/vpn-cisco-client/vpn-cisco-ubuntu">http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/information-services/services/computing/desktop-personal/vpn/vpn-cisco-client/vpn-cisco-ubuntu</a></div>
<div>Cisco VPN FAQ: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/secursw/ps2308/products_qanda_item09186a00801c2dbe.shtml">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/secursw/ps2308/products_qanda_item09186a00801c2dbe.shtml</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Examples of 64bit OS Cisco client issues: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://micro.stanford.edu/wiki/How_to_install_and_configure_the_Cisco_VPN_client_on_a_Linux_computer#64-bit_operating_system_errors">http://micro.stanford.edu/wiki/How_to_install_and_configure_the_Cisco_VPN_client_on_a_Linux_computer#64-bit_operating_system_errors</a></div>
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<div class="yiv808544800gmail_quote">On May 31, 2013 5:23 PM, "Lisa Kachold" <<a rel="nofollow">lisakachold@obnosis.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Stephen,<br><br><div class="yiv808544800gmail_quote">On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Stephen Rufle <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow">stephen.p.rufle@cox.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>My only compatibly issue was getting
the VPN tunnel that my job uses to work in 64 bit.<br>
Juniper network-connect software on Ubuntu not sure what version,
but it was around 2011. My advice is to do a 64 bit install and
then do a tests with your personal list of high priority software.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>OpenVPN works wonderfully with Juniper VPN's; completely supplanting the Network-Connect application.</div>
<div><br></div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://vpnthebestvpn.com/vpn1/juniper-vpn-64-bit.html">http://vpnthebestvpn.com/vpn1/juniper-vpn-64-bit.html</a> </div><blockquote class="yiv808544800gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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On 5/31/13 9:28 AM, keith smith wrote:<br>
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Hi,<br>
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Even though I have 64bit hardware I always install the
32bit version of Linux. I do so because of the past
discussions on this list that made me believe the 32bit OS
was better because 64bit caching is actually slower due to
the requirement that the cache be filled to a certain
point before it is moved. I think I recall something
about the amount of RAM having some effect here also. <br>
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Using a 32bit version over a 64bit version seems counter
intuitive, however that is what I have taken away from
these conversations about 32bit vs 64bit Linux. <br>
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I'm using CentOS 6.x on a LAMP server that gets a low
amount of traffic. However I may make the jump to Linux
on my desktop this summer. (this will be my 3rd attempt to
become M$ free except one VM so I can use IE for testing)
I think all of my hardware is 64bit. <br>
<br>
So that begs the question, is 32bit better than 64bit or
do I not understand the issue?<br>
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Thank you for your feedback.<br>
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Keith<br>
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