thank you for that!<br clear="all"><div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Ed <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:plug@0x1b.com" target="_blank">plug@0x1b.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

also<br>
<a href="https://jitsi.org/" target="_blank">https://jitsi.org/</a><br>
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On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:00 AM, John Starta <<a href="mailto:john@starta.org">john@starta.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> On May 28, 2013, at 10:58 PM, Michael Havens <<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com">bmike1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Doubtful, but is the google version of skype any better than skype in the seecurity arena?<br>
>> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/05/13/us/politics/ap-us-ap-phone-records-subpoena.html?pagewanted=all" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/05/13/us/politics/ap-us-ap-phone-records-subpoena.html?pagewanted=all</a><br>


>> :-)~MIKE~(-:<br>
><br>
> The short answer is no.<br>
><br>
> If you're so inclined, I encourage you to explore the larger issue starting with these articles:<br>
><br>
> --> <a href="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/05/the_eyes_and_ea.html" target="_blank">http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/05/the_eyes_and_ea.html</a><br>
><br>
> --> <a href="http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/05/29/the_fbi_s_new_wiretapping_plan_is_great_news_for_criminals" target="_blank">http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/05/29/the_fbi_s_new_wiretapping_plan_is_great_news_for_criminals</a><br>


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