Jill,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:00 PM, jill <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lists@bespokess.com" target="_blank">lists@bespokess.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="im">n 2013-05-09 08:35, Lisa Kachold wrote:<br>
> Hans,<br>
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> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, der.hans <<a href="mailto:PLUGd@lufthans.com">PLUGd@lufthans.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> > Am 07. May, 2013 schwätzte keith smith so:<br>
> ><br>
> > moin moin,<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > I'd like to thank all those who make PLUG possible. I know you have put<br>
> >> in a lot of effort to keep PLUG alive over the years. I think I have been<br>
> >> on the list for maybe 14 years. 1999??? I've enjoyed all the help and<br>
> >> guidance I have received from the list members.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thank you all!!<br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> > Having a community that is useful and valuable is the main thing I get out<br>
> > of PLUG. It's good to get confirmation that it is useful and valuable to<br>
> > others.<br>
> ><br>
> > Thank you for the thank you :).<br>
> ><br>
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> I have had a difficult experience trying to speak with one of the main PLUG<br>
> resources for about the last 3 years.<br>
><br>
> Over the years now, when I approach him at any of the public venues. he<br>
> holds up his left ring finger in full view of other members, at me from<br>
> across the room, as a way to say "He's Married". This has consistently<br>
> happened in front of other women in PLUG like Jill and Kaia (even at SCALE<br>
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</div>Having been called out by name, all I can really say is I have no idea what you're talking about, Lisa. While I don't discount what you may have experienced, I've never witnessed anything like what you described. As such I can not support your story. If there is an individual who you feel is singling you out as a female though, I'd be happy to help mediate the issue, off-list.<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I was not referring to you Jill. Have we ever been to SCALE together? </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I have no problems with anyone in PLUG. Hopefully all who know me know that I like all y'all, and think you're a great bunch. And be sure I'll let you know with loud and clear snark and sarcasm if that ever changes! :)<br>
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- Jill<br>
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> with a large room full of my peers). I have never interacted personally in<br>
> any dating way with this member. Others agreed that they consider it not<br>
> only rude, but sexist, and something that would be appalling to Linus and<br>
> Open Source gurus of my age, as well as long term friends like Chris DeBona<br>
> (Google), Randal Schwartz, and others like Carla Schroder (OReilly), Greg<br>
> KH (Linux Foundation). Additionally, my calls were not answered and my<br>
> email were ignored.<br>
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> When I first started the Hackfests, I had a very difficult time finding a<br>
> venue where networking and other resources allowed the type of Lab we<br>
> wanted to do. I was "ordered" not to move the Hackfest. That was not<br>
> similar to Linus' Benevelant Leadership model which I was accustomed in<br>
> Oregon! I ignored it, as Carla and others recommended and continued to<br>
> stay in the solution building a viable group and finding a good home for<br>
> those who wanted such a lab.<br>
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> What would you have recommended I do? What steps would you expect any<br>
> group voting on status or censure of such a member or officer?<br>
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> ><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks </div></div>-- <br><div><br></div>(503) 754-4452 Android<br>(623) 239-3392 Skype<br>(623) 688-3392 Google Voice<br>**<br><a href="http://it-clowns.com" target="_blank">it-clowns.com</a> <br>
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