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<div>Clojure is lisp on the JVM and it's certainly a plenty capable language/ecosystem. My exposure to lisp has been pretty minimal and limited to Scheme/Racket, but I've been told by some more serious lispers that clojure is the practical "getting things
done" lisp. Being on the JVM means it's fast but it's run time doesn't provide a new earth-shattering paradigm like beam does for Erlang. I think clojure exists to provide a solid runtime for people who know they want to write code in lisp and are choosing
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<div>This is not a knock against lisp by the way. I firmly believe every programmer should learn lisp, no exceptions. Lisp gives you such great perspective on every other language that even if you never actually use it for anything real taking a weekend to
learn the basics is more than worthwhile, but if you don't already swear by lisp I would skip over clojure until you do.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Eric Cope <<a href="mailto:eric.cope@gmail.com">eric.cope@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:28 AM<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: PHP lifespan<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hey Paul,
<div style="">Any experience with Clojure? All benchmarking I've seen points to incredible performance - <a href="http://clojure.org/rationale">http://clojure.org/rationale</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Carl Parrish <span dir="ltr">
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">I can only speak from my experience but I'm noticing a lot of projects that once would have been done in PHP are now being done in Python. While Ruby is my favorite language *I'm* not seeing as much interest from clients in
it as I am in Python. I think it's safe to say that PHP is going to be around for awhile that said I think its going to start declining as more Python developers start to hit the market.
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<div>On Apr 5, 2013, at 12:25 PM, keith smith wrote:</div>
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Hi, I do not want to start any flame wars. I would like to open a discussion though.<br>
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I was thinking of what the life span of PHP might be. I have lived through a number of them.<br>
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In the early 80's COBOL was still taught and was in use. I know it is still around, however I do not think anyone would choose COBOL for a new project.
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I also lived through the whole dBase, Clipper, FoxBase+, and Visual FoxPro cycle. FoxPro was acquired by M$ 15 or 18 years ago, which started it's slow decline. M$ finally killed it last year.<br>
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So I am wondering about PHP. What might it's lifespan be? What might be the next big thing... etc.<br>
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I'm interested in hearing your thoughts.<br>
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