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      The "tipping points" I would look at is the fact that SSD's, for
      around the same price and capacity as enterprise level drives
      (would be debatable in higher capacity areas where enterprise
      drives rule):<br>
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      1. Put out less heat. (Usually 1/2 a spinner)<br>
      2. Have no shock weakness (you can shake them while they're
      performing data operations if you would like)<br>
      3. Use less power. (Usually 1/2 a spinner)<br>
      4. Produce no noise. (Yep, for that quiet web server in your
      living room!)<br>
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      For an always on server, two of those have value. For placement of
      the server, the noise definitely holds a value if you share the
      room.<br>
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      I would still suggest you use spinners for data storage (spinning
      backup and file stores, even place /home on) but use SSD for the
      read performance (website, O/S...basically /, /tmp, and /var)<br>
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      Basically, setups I always see are:<br>
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      RAID 1 for O/S, web, and database using 2 x SSD's <br>
      RAID 1 on 2 x non-enterprise spinners for storage. (Backups of the
      database, home directories, etc)<br>
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      On 04/02/2013 02:55 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Sure Paul!  Why not.  Under linux a SSD drive is as
        fast as a hardware controlled RAID array.  
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        <div style="">For every endeavor your data storage is finite;
          drives will wear out at some point!</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:21 PM, keith
          smith <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    I'm almost sold.  Are you saying it is ok, or even
                    recommended to build a web server with SSD's only?<br>
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                      From: Paul Mooring <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      Subject: Re: SSDs
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                                  <span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Lisa
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                                  <span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday,
                                  April 2, 2013 1:24 PM<br>
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                                  </span>Re: SSDs<br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">I have also found
                                      that in deference to their claims
                                      some of the SSDs are SLOWER than
                                      regular enterprise drives.  
                                      <div>I believe this new technology
                                        leaves a lot to be desired.</div>
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                                      <div>On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:27
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                                          I have a question about SSDs.
                                           I've read that they like the
                                          USB thumb drives can be
                                          written to a certain number of
                                          times before they fail.  What
                                          is the expected lifetime of an
                                          SSD?  They're terribly
                                          expensive if they're only
                                          going to last 2 or 3 years.<span><font
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                                              Derek<br>
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