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<font face="Comic Sans MS">I have no doubt that the control freaks
who run the government and their cronies in business would argue
that using software they don't approve of to watch a dvd you
bought is illegal.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/02/2013 05:41 PM, Richard Daggett
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">VLC uses libdvdcss and libdvdcss does not use DeCSS
(legal version of dvd encryption). I am not saying its right or
wrong, just pulling information out of the article.
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:18px;color:rgb(23,34,50);font-family:arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif">libdvdcss</h3>
<p style="margin:20px
0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:14px;font-family:Verdana;line-height:17px">Modern
Linux machines don’t use DeCSS. However, through examining
the DeCSS code, people realized that CSS was vulnerable to a
brute-force attack. CSS uses 40-bit encryption and doesn’t
use every possible key, so it’s an extremely weak type of
encryption. A modern computer can crack a DVD’s CSS
encryption through brute force – that is, by trying every
possible key and seeing which one works – in just a few
seconds.</p>
<p style="margin:20px
0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:14px;font-family:Verdana;line-height:17px">This
is what libdvdcss does. With libdvdcss installed on Linux,
after you insert a DVD into your computer’s DVD drive, your
computer will brute-force its encryption in a few seconds.
It may look like the DVD is just opening in VLC, but your
computer is cracking the encryption key in the background to
make it viewable.</p>
<p style="margin:20px
0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:14px;font-family:Verdana;line-height:17px">If
you don’t have libdvdcss or DeCSS installed, DVDs won’t play
back at all.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Eric
Oyen <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:eric.oyen@gmail.com" target="_blank">eric.oyen@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">I find this rather
interesting as I haven't had to install any cracking
software to view DVD's on linux. VLC can play any
commercially available DVD without having to install
DVDCSS or any ripping software. It also happens to be one
of the few apps in linux that has labeled controls that
work with ORCA (the screen reader for the blind).
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<div>IMHO, anyone that states (as a matter of law) that
viewing movies in linux is illegal should refer to the
fair use portions of US Copyright law. I maintain that I
have the right to view my purchased DVD's with whatever
technology that allows me to do so. Simply labeling us
as criminals because we use a non-supported OS to play
our media just isn't justifiable. It also violates
constitutional law (we are innocent until proven guilty
in a court of law). </div>
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<div>Big content needs to get with the program. We are out
here and we are not going away. Instead of trying to
criminalize s, they should be marketing to us. it will
make them more money and allow us to enjoy what we want.</div>
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<div>-eric</div>
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<div>On Mar 2, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Richard Daggett
wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I would say its illegal to watch
dvd's on a illegal copy of the player (using
libdvdcss). You can purchase legal dvd players
for linux
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<h3
style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:18px;color:rgb(23,34,50);font-family:arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif">Actually,
Linux Has a Few Licensed DVD Players</h3>
<p style="margin:20px
0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:14px;font-family:Verdana;line-height:17px">It
was once true that Linux users had to become
criminals to watch commercial video DVDs (at
least in the USA). However, there are now
licensed DVD players available for Linux.</p>
<p style="margin:20px
0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:14px;font-family:Verdana;line-height:17px">For
example, Ubuntu’s Software Center offers the
licensed <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/fluendo-dvd/"
style="color:rgb(17,68,145)" target="_blank">Fluendo
DVD Player</a>. This DVD player will cost
you $25, although you have probably already
paid for licensed DVD-playback software that
comes with your computer’s DVD drive in the
first place. If you purchased the licensed
Cyberlink DVD player, which was previously the
only legal option for watching DVDs on Linux
in the USA, you probably need to buy the
Fluendo DVD Player to play DVDs on modern
versions of Ubuntu.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at
9:38 AM, Stephen <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com"
target="_blank">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>></span>
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0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Yep sure is... a very weakly
enforced illegal until you start
distributing media that you "cracked"</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 2, 2013
at 8:16 AM, Lyle Tuttle <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:l.tuttle@cox.net"
target="_blank">l.tuttle@cox.net</a>></span>
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