thanks. I'll fix my jumper tomorrow and hopefully this will fix it.<br clear="all"><div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Michael Butash <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael@butash.net" target="_blank">michael@butash.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Yes, and make both sides match. Look up EIA/TIA T568A/B standards. Just have to make sure as if you reverse green and orange on one side, you make a crossover, but colors are used somewhat interchangeably for straight-through cables as long as they match.<br>
<br>
Keep the pairs as twisted and sheathed inside the rj45 as much as possible when you crimp, otherwise you get interference that equals errors.<br>
<br>
-mb<div class="im"><br>
<br>
<br>
On 02/10/2013 11:03 PM, Michael Havens wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">
so is this correct?<br>
<br>
stripe orange,orange<br>
stripe green,blue<br>
stripe blue,green<br>
stripe brown,brown<br>
:-)~MIKE~(-:<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Brian Cluff <<a href="mailto:brian@snaptek.com" target="_blank">brian@snaptek.com</a><br></div><div class="im">
<mailto:<a href="mailto:brian@snaptek.com" target="_blank">brian@snaptek.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
That's definetely not standard, but at least it looks like you have<br>
kept the color pairs together, so you wouldn't have one side of a<br>
connection on one pair and the other on a different pair.<br>
A Cable wired with what you have been doing should work OK. Just<br>
make sure you don't strip the ends first ;)<br>
<br>
I would go ahead and use the proper color code just so that someone<br>
else that comes across one of your connections won't be confused.<br>
<br>
Brian Cluff<br>
<br>
<br>
On 02/10/2013 10:25 PM, Michael Havens wrote:<br>
<br>
so then (my cables are stripe, solid) the proper way to do it is:<br>
<br>
stripe orange,orange<br>
stripe green,blue<br>
stripe blue,green<br>
stripe brown,brown<br>
<br>
I was taught,<br>
<br>
blue, stripe blue<br>
green, stripe orange<br>
orange, stripe green<br>
brown, stripe brown<br>
:-)~MIKE~(-:<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br></div><div><div class="h5">
There is definitely a color code you need to follow for<br>
Ethernet.<br>
If you just use the same colors on both side the wires<br>
won't be<br>
twisted inside the cable correctly and the cable will be<br>
noisey and<br>
give poor performance.<br>
<br>
12345678<br>
||||||||<br>
| |<br>
| |<br>
|[====]|<br>
|______|<br>
| |<br>
| |<br>
<br>
(With the plugs conductors facing you)<br>
<br>
1 white-orange<br>
2 orange-white<br>
3 white-green<br>
4 Blue-white<br>
5 white-blue<br>
6 green-white<br>
7 white-brown<br>
8 brown-white<br>
<br>
Do both ends exactly the same, make sure you press the<br>
cable in so<br>
that all the wires touch the end of the plug.<br>
<br>
That should make a good cable.<br>
<br>
10 and 100 Mb cables use pins 123 and 6, 1000Mb cables use<br>
all 8.<br>
<br>
Pin 1 and 2 are twisted together and pins 3 and 6 are twisted<br>
together. If you just put the same colors on both sides<br>
you will at<br>
least be making pins 3 and 6 not have their proper twists.<br>
<br>
Brian Cluff<br>
<br>
<br>
On 02/10/2013 03:57 PM, Michael Havens wrote:<br>
<br>
you forgot the link but I guess it is the cable. I had<br>
a long<br>
enough<br>
cable to just connect it without it looking pretty and<br>
it worked. I<br>
don't know though. My connections are good (I think)<br>
so maybe<br>
it is the<br>
cable itself. That is all I can think of.<br>
:-)~MIKE~(-:<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Stephen<br>
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<br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
I would take a gander at this link, and look at<br>
the various<br>
diagrams. especially the notes at the end.<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
okay, I thought I did it correctly.... I mean<br>
the modem is<br>
lights when I plug the new cable in but my brother<br>
tells me that<br>
he still isn't connected and his box (windows)<br>
won't ping<br>
google. You just need to make the pairs alike<br>
on each end,<br>
right? I answered that question by looking at<br>
a known good<br>
cable. I just replaced the rj45s and same<br>
thing. I just<br>
restarted the ms box and after it started the<br>
front network<br>
computer icons lit up. Then I tried to renew<br>
the IP but it<br>
failed. Then I left and came back to the<br>
computer and<br>
there was<br>
a bubble message that said it was connected<br>
but still<br>
couldn't<br>
get any pages to load. Then I disabled the<br>
connection and<br>
reenabled and it said it connected. What's<br>
going on?<br>
:-)~MIKE~(-:<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
thanks brian.... I made a mistake then.<br>
Bummer!<br>
:-)~MIKE~(-:<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
No, Just crimp it the conductors on<br>
the RJ45<br>
jack will<br>
pierce the insulation. If you have<br>
stripped<br>
it, it will<br>
probably short inside the plug.<br>
<br>
Brian Cluff<br>
<br>
<br>
On 02/09/2013 10:02 PM, Michael Havens<br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
I feel retarded..... I can't<br>
remember if<br>
you are<br>
supposed to strip cat 5<br>
to the copper before you crimp it. I'm<br>
thinking no<br>
but I need to make sure.<br>
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