<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><br><br>I have two bottom of the line HP laptops running AMD processors. I am content. Probably because I do not do much. LAMP dev, email, browse the web, and netflix. <br><br>I think what brought the whole Intel v. AMD home for me was when you were setting up VirtualBox on your netbook and beating my Laptop. I seem to recall your netbook runs an Intel CPU, not the latest, but a prior generation, and 1GB RAM. I'm running an AMD dual core with 4GB RAM. And you netbook was out pacing my notebook. <br><br>For years you have been telling me to go with Intel. I think I am now convinced. I know $200 or $300 dollars can be a big difference when buying hardware. I try to break it down to 5 or 6 years. If you get an i3, i5, or i7 at a higher price and you use that workstation or laptop for 5 or 6 years
the marginal cost might only be $50 a year. I'm a tightwad. I hate spending money, so I try to get the best deal. I usually buy my computers on Black Friday or during some other sale. I get the weekly flyer from Staples and OfficMax. If a really good deal comes along I might make purchase. Sometimes you do not get exactly what you want, however you can save a few bucks. I bought my last two laptops that way. <br><br>During the Christmas sales I picked up to 2 Seagate 500GB backup drives for half price. I did not know they were on special. I asked the clerk if they had any cool specials and he lit up and told me about these drives. The cool thing is they are powered via USB and are ultra thin. I really did not need them however I can use them. I save money by buying on sale.<br><br>My next computer will have an Intel CPU even if it cost
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Keith Smith<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 1/15/13, Nathan England <i><nathan@nmecs.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Nathan England <nathan@nmecs.com><br>Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?<br>To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org><br>Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 1:36 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br><br>I am in dire need of a new machine. I'd like a new workstation, but a<br>server is a must. This would be a great system for a LAMP box but<br>sadly I wouldn't take an AMD system if it was given to me. I have<br>tried so hard over the years to like AMD but it has never paid off.<br>- From systems that would run so hot they could double as my gas furnace<br>in the winter to systems that are so pathetically slow they aren't<br>worth keeping around, and
I'm talking about new systems! I recently<br>bought a Turion 64 X2 and in the end gave Best Buy $150 bucks to take<br>it back because it was awful.<br><br>I had a Duron 350 once that rocked. It was cool and blew away every<br>pentium processor I had at twice the speeds. AMD realized how fast<br>they Duron line was, as it was killing the Athlons at the time, and<br>they killed it off. Now the Duron lives on in the Turion series but<br>they don't even compare.<br><br>Am I just having bad luck with AMD or are others experiencing this? I<br>seriously would like to know because I've seen some screaming deals on<br>quad core and tri core machines I'd love to pick up, but seriously am<br>too scared to lose the money on another piece of junk. I think I've<br>had 6 AMDs in the last 15 years and have only been happy with 1. Intel<br>on the other hand I've had dozens and loved them all... (except the<br>celeron).<br><br>Nathan<br><br><br>On 1/15/2013 7:17 AM,
Stephen wrote:<br>> It seems that HP agrees with your issues. and have made a low power<br>> server.<br>> <br>> 350 normally right now on sale for 320, and they give you an<br>> additional 50 rebate.<br>> <br>> <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859107052" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859107052</a><br>> <br>> I have no idea how reliable they are but if i had the money i would<br>> pick one up and find out what i can do with it.<br>> <br>> <br>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM, keith smith<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:klsmith2020@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com">klsmith2020@yahoo.com</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:klsmith2020@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com">klsmith2020@yahoo.com</a>>> wrote:<br>> <br>> <br>> Heat is one of the main reasons I went to laptops. I had 2 towers
<br>> running 350 plus watt power supplies. My office was the hottest <br>> room in the house. Now today I could use that heat, however in<br>> July and August I'll pass.<br>> <br>> These net top computers are cool. I still like the netbooks or<br>> cheap notebooks though because you get a monitor, mouse, and<br>> keyboard with them. That makes them perfect for a simple LAMP<br>> server in a dev environment. Or add an external monitor, keyboard,<br>> and a mouse and you have two screens you can use. Not as nice as<br>> two large flat panel monitors, however not as much expense either.<br>> <br>> <br>> Once in a while I make the joke that if smart phones become more <br>> powerful, I might just use a couple of them for my LAMP dev.<br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------ Keith Smith<br>> <br>> --- On *Mon, 1/14/13, <a ymailto="mailto:joe@actionline.com"
href="/mc/compose?to=joe@actionline.com">joe@actionline.com</a><br>> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:joe@actionline.com" href="/mc/compose?to=joe@actionline.com">joe@actionline.com</a>> /<<a ymailto="mailto:joe@actionline.com" href="/mc/compose?to=joe@actionline.com">joe@actionline.com</a><br>> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:joe@actionline.com" href="/mc/compose?to=joe@actionline.com">joe@actionline.com</a>>>/* wrote:<br>> <br>> <br>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:joe@actionline.com" href="/mc/compose?to=joe@actionline.com">joe@actionline.com</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:joe@actionline.com" href="/mc/compose?to=joe@actionline.com">joe@actionline.com</a>> <br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:joe@actionline.com" href="/mc/compose?to=joe@actionline.com">joe@actionline.com</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:joe@actionline.com" href="/mc/compose?to=joe@actionline.com">joe@actionline.com</a>>><br>> <br>> Subject: Re: Has
anyone here tried a Chromebook? To: "Main PLUG<br>> discussion list" <<a ymailto="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="/mc/compose?to=plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a> <br>> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="/mc/compose?to=plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>>> Date: Monday, January 14,<br>> 2013, 3:58 PM<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Keith last wrote:<br>>> That would work, however they cost more than a netbook.<br>> <br>> I have replaced my older "tower" computers with two of these, one<br>> of which I bought new for $349 a couple years ago, and the other I<br>> found on Craigslist for $150. They use only 8-watts of power (I<br>> think). They run absolutely silent and never get hot. Here is<br>> another still available (I think) on Craigslist for $150:<br>> <br>> <a
href="http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3467164583.html" target="_blank">http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3467164583.html</a><br>> <br>> One is now my main computer and the second is just a clone for <br>> backup. I'm just now converting them both to kubuntu 12.10.<br>> <br>> For personal use (except for gamers), I can't see any benefit to<br>> big "towers" with 200-watt or larger power supplies any more.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss<br>> mailing list - <a ymailto="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="/mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a> <br>> <<a href="http://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> To<br>> subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: <br>> <a
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