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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">And the battery in the laptop (if you leave it in, which I typically do) works as a battery backup should power go out... Net tops don't have that!</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Nathan<br /><br />On Monday, January 14, 2013 14:14:42 keith smith wrote:<br /></p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br />That would work, however they cost more than a netbook. <br /><br />------------------------<br />Keith Smith<br /><br />--- On <span style=" font-weight:600;">Mon, 1/14/13, Stephen </span><span style=" font-weight:600; font-style:italic;"><cryptworks@gmail.com></span> wrote:<br /></p>
<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:5px; margin-right:40px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br />From: Stephen <cryptworks@gmail.com><br />Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?<br />To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org><br />Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 2:50 PM<br /><br /></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:5px; margin-right:40px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a name="yiv877819417"></a>sounds like a net top would be perfect for you then. they are a netbook without the keyboard battery and screen. install centos on it and leave it alone.</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:5px; margin-right:40px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM, keith smith <<a href="/mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#3e4d78;">klsmith2020@yahoo.com</span></a>> wrote:<br /></p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br />I think they have more value than just browsing the web. I am a LAMP dev. I use a cheap HP Laptop as my dev server. It is not much better than this Chromebook and I'm using a HP Pavilion g6 (cheap and on sale) for my workstation - very bottom of the line. <br /><br />For instance, a fellow PLUG member was walking me through setting up a virtual machine. He was using a netbook with the Intel chip that was prior to the Intel Atom N455 and he was beating me. I am running an AMD A4-3300 running at 1.9GHtz and 4GB RAM. I think his netbook was running at 1.3GHz and it probably had only 1GB RAM. <br /><br />I think these cheap Netbook are more powerful than they might seem. I would not use one if I were a designer because they might not have enough power. However I find them to be very useful and they are cheap. <br /><br />I know they are way more powerful than my old broken down 11 year old laptop running a 1Ghz Celeron w/256MB RAM. 2 years ago I loaded CentOS on it and configured it to run as a mail server using Qmail Toaster. It was only a test, however it ran just fine. <br /><br />I've been toying with configuring a Netbook as a public facing LAMP web server for testing. <br /><br />The Tucson Free Unix Group (TFUG) used a laptop for a couple years to serve their website. Not for an active website, however it worked just find. AND it served the mailing list.<br /><br />For me the computer is waiting most of the time for me to type so these small cheap computers work well. If I were compiling C or C++ all the time I would want something substantially faster, however I am not. <br /><br />Anyone else using Netbooks or cheap laptops in a production environment? <br /><br />------------------------<br />Keith Smith<br /><br />--- On <span style=" font-weight:600;">Mon, 1/14/13, Stephen </span><span style=" font-weight:600; font-style:italic;"><</span><a href="/mc/compose?to=cryptworks@gmail.com"><span style=" font-weight:600; font-style:italic; text-decoration: underline; color:#3e4d78;">cryptworks@gmail.com</span></a><span style=" font-weight:600; font-style:italic;">></span> wrote:<br /></p>
<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:5px; margin-right:40px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br />From: Stephen <<a href="/mc/compose?to=cryptworks@gmail.com"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#3e4d78;">cryptworks@gmail.com</span></a>><br />Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?<br />To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <<a href="/mc/compose?to=plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#3e4d78;">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</span></a>><br />Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 12:02 PM<br /><br /></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:5px; margin-right:40px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">The Pros are its cost/performance. They generally run very well for what they do. The battery life is pretty good also.</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:5px; margin-right:40px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">The cons you cannot fall back to Firefox for sites that will not allow chrome, and you are using a small net-book that is 100% purpose built to run just a browser. </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:5px; margin-right:40px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Within that there are a number of tools giving you a great deal of functionality inside the chrome browser as a plugin. One of my favorites of these is an SSH client. they also have RDP and VNC clients as well. so in a pinch you can remote someplace and get something done.. </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:5px; margin-right:40px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM, <<a href="http://mc/compose?to=joe@actionline.com"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#3e4d78;">joe@actionline.com</span></a>> wrote:<br /></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:11px; margin-right:40px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br />Thanks for sharing this, Keith.<br />Seems like a Chromebook might be excellent for travel.<br />One can readily see some good "pros" ... what are the "cons"?<br /><br /><a href="https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromebook_acer_c710&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-gdn-acer&utm_medium=ha"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#3e4d78;">https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromebook_acer_c710&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-gdn-acer&utm_medium=ha</span></a><br /><br />How superior is Intel Atom N455 dual core performance than Intel Celeron<br />dual core?<br /><br />Seems like the Samsung Chromebook at $249 is better in a lot of ways.<br />Longer battery life and perhaps better construction.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />---------------------------------------------------<br />PLUG-discuss mailing list - <a href="http://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#3e4d78;">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</span></a><br />To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br /><a href="http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#3e4d78;">http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</span></a><br /></p>
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