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    <font face="Comic Sans MS">I understand Ubuntu is a derivative of
      Debian.  I just want to find out what differences there are
      between the two.<br>
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      thanks<br>
      Derek<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/15/2012 03:12 PM, Michael Havens
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAFRvunLCF0GwjQ_qg6dcSpasyJPjNcVPAyjnUk7bS7skiAQokA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Last year I got a new computer with WIN7 too and got
      rid of it within two weeks.
      <div>Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian.<br clear="all">
        <div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Derek
          Trotter <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:expat.arizonan@gmail.com" target="_blank">expat.arizonan@gmail.com</a>></span>
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              On 12/15/2012 12:30 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:<br>
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                On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 06:49:48PM -0700, <a
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                  href="mailto:joe@actionline.com" target="_blank">joe@actionline.com</a>
                wrote:<br>
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                  Thanks to all for all the suggestions. After wasting
                  several days trying<br>
                  figure out M$ convoluted maze, I finally found a free
                  utility called<br>
                  partition wizard that installed and instantly fixed
                  the problem.<br>
                  <br>
                  It is incomprehensible and unconscionable that M$ is
                  so determined to make<br>
                  everything so impossibly convoluted and difficult.
                  Viva Linux.<br>
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                I completely agree. My step daughter moved in for a few
                weeks and I got<br>
                to play with her Win7 netbook. After two days of
                wrestling with the way<br>
                M$ wanted you to do things, I said thanks but no thanks,
                and that was<br>
                with her showing me how and me reading a big manual she
                had with her.<br>
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                God how I love my Debian and it's not a matter of what
                I'm used to!<br>
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            I can sympathize.  Last January I bought a computer that
            came with windows 7.  I tried it for about a month and was
            thoroughly disgusted with how difficult everything was in
            windows 7.  M$ made it so ******* difficult to network two
            computers together.   In xp it was a simple task.  Also some
            games I have don't run right on 7. I ended up getting rid of
            7 and putting xp on the machine.  Then in November I got
            tired of xp, removed it and replaced it with kubuntu and I'm
            happy with it.<br>
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            You say you run Debian.  How does Debian differ from
            ubuntu/kubuntu?
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