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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I really don't understand why
subscribers of this list get their panties in a bunch. If a
question annoys me, I just don't respond. God knows that I have
posted "dumb questions" to lists. I suggest members use
discretion. I suggest Michael think carefully on an issue before
posting. I certainly have seen quality posts by Michael. I have
also heard myself say, Michael again! This list is very useful and
if we start fighting or leave the list, the list becomes useless.
As the late Rodney King said... "Can't we all just get along?"<br>
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Michael I value you on this list and hope things are well for you.<br>
<br>
Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.<br>
Operations Manager<br>
Phoenix Internet<br>
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On 11/30/2012 11:01 AM, Stephen wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CACS_G9xE8D++Ln8qtMJfMTKkVgE_JM=ArnoOn2_7hfWKRWE48w@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Google can find a wealth of information, but there is
no guaruntee about applicable nature or accuracy. however i think
it is a great place to start and fine tune the questions you need
to ask. and for me that is what i mean about previous research.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:54 AM, James
Mcphee <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jmcphe@gmail.com" target="_blank">jmcphe@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I can understand the frustration of being asked easily
searchable questions. There wouldn't be a "Let Me Google
That For You" site if it wasn't common.
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<div>I also know that just because google says to do
something, doesn't mean it's the right way. So even if
the thing I'm doing is basic, and google has
readily-available answers, I will still ask for opinions.</div>
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<div>Just my 2 cents.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:42
AM, Dazed_75 <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lthielster@gmail.com"
target="_blank">lthielster@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Good
thoughts all. My feeling is that Mike has come a
long way from where he started and explores many
things that most folks would never touch. <br>
<br>
It is amazing to me that he does some of the
projects he tackles and still asks so many
"simple" questions. I may not answer as many of
those as a I should but there are also questions
he asks that I cannot answer even if I do some
researching. So I do learn from some of his
threads if I follow them through to an answer.
And that is what it is all about.<br>
<br>
Oh, and one thing Mike does that I wish more
people would do is to usually post the solution
even when he finds it himself or as a result of an
answer that someone gave.<br>
<br>
I do sometimes wonder if there are people who
object just because Mike is the most prolific user
of this list. Good on you Mike.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 30, 2012
at 9:29 AM, James Finstrom <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com"
target="_blank">jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
The point of a LUG is to get people
interested in Linux and build skills. This
is why you have install days etc. I work
daily with people who don't want to use
Linux but have to on their servers. Linux
is an acquired taste for some. My wife and
kids had to be taught to love it after my
5th time reinstalling their computer
because they hosed windows. <br>
<br>
Google is like common sense. Everyone has
access and should contain a small amount
of knowledge in using it. Fact a good
chunk of my day is spent working as a
google proxy for others. People lack
common sense and the ability to type a few
words in to google. The flip side of that
is knowing how to read results. Sometimes
the first, second forth page of google is
irreverent or is the 1200th person asking
a question and no one has an answer. I
consider my self a professional google
user. It is 1/2 my world. I have recently
started burrowing in to python and some
things (yum) are documented by a 3 year
old or not at all so you have to turn to
other resources. I am happy to say even
when I ask something I know is reaaaaaaly
dumb the python folks have been pretty
awesome to me. <br>
<br>
tl;dr Lugs try to attract people, these
people likely know nothing, asking a
community like this sometimes yields
higher quality results than searching.
You should be happy they asked rather than
moving on, teach them to fish.<br>
tl;dr for tl;dr Be excellent to each
other.
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color="#888888"><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov
30, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Carruth,
Rusty <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Rusty.Carruth@smartstoragesys.com"
target="_blank">Rusty.Carruth@smartstoragesys.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">As
much as I hate 'me too' replies,
in this case I think its
warranted, so here goes:<br>
<br>
Well said, thanks!<br>
<br>
Rusty<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> ....<br>
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> I agree that you are
free to block Mike if you
wish, but I disagree<br>
> with anyone publicly
stating 'Mike is so dumb
that we should kick him<br>
> out'<br>
> because that express
and undeserved and ignorant
judgement and narrows<br>
> the limits of those
willing to participate in
this list.<br>
><br>
> I don't block Mike,
although I don't always
answer.<br>
> And I have the utmost
respect for him.<br>
> Mike, please don't
leave this list.<br>
> Enrique A. Troconis<br>
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