new computer

[Michael]

well, I'm going to get another recycled computer. A thinkcentre. From what
I've heard they are, at the most, 3 years old and not up to spec for
windows 11 (why they are in recycle). Got to love windows for that alone!
Or does someone have a better idea? Any one know of the top of there head
how much RAM maxes it out?

On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 10:59 PM wheelie207 via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

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> I have a system with over 32 gigs of DDR5 ram and the swap isn’t even
> used. I also have a thread ripper cpu and it runs at 5.8 gigahertz in speed
> on a am5 slot. But these new boards run the data through the cpu when
> reading and writing data to the ssd5.
>
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 09:02, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
> <On+Sun,+Feb+25,+2024+at+09:02,+Bob+Elzer+via+PLUG-discuss+%3C%3Ca+href=>>
> wrote:
>
> SSD ram cache does not prevent wear and tear on your SSD, it is used stop
> the bottleneck slowdown when writing lots of data to the SSD. The best way
> to prevent wear and tear is system ram, if you have enough ram the system
> may not even have to swap anything out, The three things that I always move
> off of an SSD are swap, log files, and tmp.
> If you have a ddr4 motherboard with four slots. You can have 128 GB of
> RAM. Right now you can get 64 GB of ddr4 RAM for around $135.
>
> What determines how much RAM you need is the programs you are running and
> how much RAM they need. Video and image editing require a lot more RAM then
> email and Web browsing.
>
> If you are going to use an SSD for your system drive. I would also
> recommend that the minimum size be 2 TB. As long as you don't fill it up,
> it has lots of room to use unused sectors to lessen the wear and tear.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2024, 8:24 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> On my current system I am running without swap, but I do have 32gb ram.
>>
>> If you pick an ssd with a ram cache on it you don't have to worry about
>> swap as much there. And you can extend ssd life with underprovisioning if
>> it still is a concern. But in reality a good quality ssd Wil last for years
>> even with swap in place as long as you don't run near max storage.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2024, 6:49 AM James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> To avoid swap wearing out your ssd, if you don't have an hd handy, you
>>> can set vm.swappiness to 0. This is not great since paging is quite
>>> efficient these days, but sometimes you'll want swap for suspend operations
>>> and don't want to actually page unless you're under memory pressure.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 3:09 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Check out the latest batch of Intel-based N100 Mini PCs. They’re
>>>> smaller than MacMinis.
>>>>
>>>> I’d say a minimal configuration would be 32GB of RAM and 1TB (or 2TB)
>>>> of SSD. I’d say an N100 is minimal CPU.
>>>>
>>>> Some with AMD CPUs are cheaper as well.
>>>>
>>>> Here’s a search on Amazon:
>>>>
>>>> https://amzn.to/3woboP0
>>>>
>>>> They don’t sort very well; here’s the cheapest Linux box I found. There
>>>> are cheaper ones with Windows that you can delete.
>>>>
>>>> https://amzn.to/48wM5rv
>>>>
>>>> I’ve got a 2014 MacMini, a 2014 MBP, and a 2018 MacMini and they’re
>>>> still going strong. You can find late-model used Intel MacMinis for a few
>>>> hundred bucks that work great.
>>>>
>>>> Way back in the day, the all-in-one boxes used to have problems with a
>>>> serial port or the video going out and the whole thing would be dead. But
>>>> that doesn’t seem to happen much any more. I use my MacMinis daily and the
>>>> newer one runs the fan a lot when I’m watching videos, but other than that,
>>>> they’re still humming right along. I had one of the first gen iMacs and the
>>>> video card in it died shortly after the AppleCare expired. I ended up
>>>> selling it for $375 anyway. Today you can buy USB-3 and USB-C expansion
>>>> ports with one or more HDMI interfaces on them if the on-board video dies.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you need a super-high-power over-clocked water-cooled screaming
>>>> machine for gaming or bitcoin mining, I cannot see the value in building a
>>>> machine from scratch unless you’re trying to do it on the cheap using
>>>> recycled components. What’s the point?
>>>>
>>>> -David Schwartz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2024, at 6:46 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>>>> plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I want a guy I know to put a computer together for me. I'm thinking a
>>>> single core (I don't think I need more processing power than that) with 8
>>>> gig of ram. I'm wanting to spend $3-$400. I'm an older guy now and won't
>>>> use it for much more than web and email. What should I tell him to put in
>>>> it?
>>>>
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