WordPress moving away from PHP to JavaScript

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David,

Interesting Feedback.  I keep saying you need a blog.

Keith

On 2024-04-20 13:43, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> I started learning Delphi (originally called TurboPascal 8) when it was 
> first released in 1995. In 2000 I spent most of the year building a 
> web-based app using PHP, HTML, JS, and MySQL, a project I later 
> abandoned b/c after digging around in some open-source code I found 
> things there that would allow anybody to build my magical thing simply 
> by uncommenting some compiler options that prevented some existing code 
> from working. That was quite depressing.
> 
> So I turned back to Delphi and didn’t look back. There was a huge 
> growth in Delphi’s use over the next 8-10 years in the adoption of 
> Delphi for corporate software. It was eventually eclipsed by C#/.NET, 
> and today the majority of jobs for Delphi programmers (in America, 
> anyway) are maintenance positions keeping these legacy systems working.
> 
> Delphi was originally owned by Borland, who renamed itself Inprise, 
> then split off their languages into CodeGear, which was finally sold to 
> a private equity group named Embarcadero. Embarcadero itself has been 
> bought and absorbed into a couple more companies, but they still keep 
> cranking out new versions of Delphi annually. One thing they have NOT 
> done is enhance the language much (probably b/c they dumped their dev 
> team several years ago and are mostly just a marketing company now). 
> They keep adding stuff to the periphery that targets the more 
> premium-priced versions of the product (through product acquisitions), 
> and keep steadily raising the price. Consequently, most of their 
> revenues now coms from non-US sources, including Brazil, Columbia, and 
> several European countries.
> 
> Delphi’s main target platform is still Windows, although it also 
> supports MacOS, iOS, Android, and Linux.
> 
> The world has been moving towards a situation where more and more logic 
> is being pushed into the browser, and Delphi’s owner has done nothing 
> to help with that.
> 
> But a 3rd-party Delphi component/library vendor, TMS Software, has been 
> working on something called TMS WEB Core that lets you write code 
> within the Delphi IDE in Object Pascal and generate javascript apps 
> that run in most any web browser. They’re basically using a transpiler 
> to compile Delphi’s Object Pascal into javascript, and they’re into 
> their fourth year of development of that technology. It’s an awesome 
> platform. The transpiler itself, pas2js, is an open-source project, but 
> the supporting infrastructure they use is proprietary. Thankfully, 
> they’ve made some small enhancements to Delphi’s language to make it 
> much easier to deal with the async nature of web programming.
> 
> The thing is, Embarcadero acts as if all of this is irrelevant. They 
> just keep plodding forward making trivial enhancements to the language 
> and piling on more and more Windows-specific additions to the platform 
> the same way they’ve always done.
> 
> The work TMS has done is slowly gaining traction, but since the vast 
> majority of Delphi work is simply keeping a bunch of apps written 
> between 2004 and 2009 alive, we’re not seeing much growth in new dev 
> work.
> 
> For a little while there were some components that let you integrate 
> php with Delphi apps, but they fizzled out pretty quickly due to lack 
> of interest.
> 
> Today there’s a lot more interest in some components that allow you to 
> ingegrate Python scripts into Delphi.
> 
> But by far the most interest is in leveraging javascript (mostly via 
> WEB Core) to support the client-side UI aspects of your project without 
> having to know a lick of js.
> 
> Sadly, Delphi’s owners aren’t as insightful as Wordpress’ owners.
> 
> My biggest complaint is that memory management that web browsers employ 
> for js apps is horrible. It consumes system memory and loses track of 
> it to the point where the machine (my Macs, anyway) eventually just 
> choke and spontaneously reboot for lack of available memory.
> 
> I hope Matt helps fix this problem because it impacts everybody who is 
> using js inside of web browsers to build increasingly complex 
> client-side apps.
> 
> -David Schwartz
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 20, 2024, at 7:32 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss 
>> <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> This article says WordPress is moving away from PHP to JavaScript.  I 
>> think WordPress is shooting itself in the foot.  My main question has 
>> to do with resources given the shift from server side processing to 
>> browser based processing.
>> 
>> https://thenewstack.io/why-php-usage-has-declined-by-40-in-just-over-2-years/
>> 
>> Your thoughts are much appreciated.
>> 
>> Keith
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