https://www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited-buying-high-end-dell-gaming-pcs

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One of the things that scares me, and there are a few when it comes to 
China, is most of my pharmaceuticals are made in China.  When China 
finally becomes extremely hostile towards the US what happens then?

We need to start moving manufacturing back to the US.  It is a matter of 
national security. And we need to become energy independent as we were 
just a few month ago.



On 2021-07-28 09:49, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> Um, it’s not a fascination. It’s hard facts seen by live examples.
> Besides Bill Gates, who is the largestest farm land owner in the US:
> China (by way of many holding companies). Who now manufactures most of
> the electronics seen in everyday life. Again, China. Those are just 2
> prime examples. Oh yeah, and where do many of the cyber attacks seem
> to originate from (other than Russia, North Korea, Ukraine, The Middle
> East or the Gold Coast of Africa)? Yep, China. Lastly, who is
> responsible for nearly $140 billion in annual forced technology
> transfers (by way of company buyouts, hostile takeovers or industrial
> espionage)? Um, China. Btw, these are all proven and verifiable facts.
> 
> -Eric
> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, data acquisition and
> verification Dept.
> 
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2021, at 1:13 AM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss 
>> <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 22:53:09 -0700
>> 
>>> So, guys, nice little debate we all got snagged into here because of
>>> some state regulations that would prevent nearly 60 million people
>>> from owning technologies that would make their lives more convenient.
>>> Regulations put in place by politicians who know nothing of real
>>> science and are trying to kiss up to china. Now, where does that 
>>> leave
>>> us?
>> 
>> It leaves us with 60 million people who can't game quite as hard. Boo
>> hoo hoo.
>> 
>> What's this fascination with China that you all have? China uses the
>> energy equivalent of 27,018 million barrels of oil for 1394 million
>> people, equalling 19.4 barrels per person. The US uses the equivalent 
>> of
>> 18,684 million barrels and has 328 million people, equaling 56.9
>> barrels per person.
>> 
>> So here's the question: If some country using almost triple the energy
>> per person than your country says *you* are the problem and should 
>> cut,
>> and they won't do squat until you cut, what would you say to them?
>> 
>> You ask where it leaves us. Hey, if you're 60 years old, it leaves you
>> having lived a pretty fun life. If you're 20 years old, it leaves you
>> with a very hard (and probably considerably foreshortened) second half
>> of your life. If you were just born today, by the time you graduate
>> college, the world will be rife with climate refugees and water wars,
>> and by the time you're 50, if you last that long, the population
>> decline will be brutal and pretty universal except for the very rich.
>> All because everybody in 2021 said the other guy should cut his
>> emissions first.
>> 
>> One more thing: Some friends of mine ran the numbers and according to
>> them the California computer energy standards aren't as strict as 
>> those
>> of the EU.
>> 
>> I feel not a bit of sorrow for the 60 million potential gamers who 
>> play
>> at a slight disadvantage, if they play at all. I feel sorry for their
>> grandchildren.
>> 
>> SteveT
>> 
>> Steve Litt
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