New computer.

Stephen Partington cryptworks at gmail.com
Sat Jul 18 07:47:57 MST 2020


Just an idea and ballpark cost.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 6:11 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> yeah? I was planning on doing the enclosure thing powered separately.
> As for whether my USBs are 1 or 2 lshw|grep us seems to indicate I
> only have USB2. But you know what they say.... play with what you
> have!
>         *-usb:0
>            *-usbhost
>                 bus info: usb at 1
>                 logical name: usb1
>                 capabilities: usb-2.00
>               *-usb
>                    bus info: usb at 1:1
>                    capabilities: usb-2.00
>         *-usb:1
>            *-usbhost
>                 bus info: usb at 2
>                 logical name: usb2
>                 capabilities: usb-2.00
>               *-usb
>                    bus info: usb at 2:1
>                    capabilities: usb-2.00
>                  *-usb:0
>                       bus info: usb at 2:1.4
>                       capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00
>                       configuration: driver=btusb speed=12Mbit/s
>                  *-usb:1
>                       bus info: usb at 2:1.7
>                       capabilities: usb-2.00
>                     *-usb:0
>                          bus info: usb at 2:1.7.2
>                          capabilities: usb-1.10
>                          configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA
> speed=2Mbit/s
>                     *-usb:1
>                          bus info: usb at 2:1.7.3
>                          capabilities: usb-2.00
>                          configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=98mA
> speed=2Mbit/s
>                     *-usb:2
>                          bus info: usb at 2:1.7.4
>                          capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host
>                          configuration: driver=usb-storage
> maxpower=100mA speed=480Mbit/s
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:21 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
> <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >
> > It's a good idea, however I don't think a NUC will have a big enough
> > power supply to support that many hard drives.  If you could get that
> > many attached to it, it would probably cause the hard drive to fail
> > rather quickly on a NUC.  You would need to get some sort of external
> > USB attached hard drive enclosure with it's own power supply to make it
> > work right.  I would only do that if your NUC has USB3 and the enclosure
> > also is USB3.   USB2 would just make your storage painfully slow.
> >
> > An NVMe is a new kind of SSD that is essentially attached directly to a
> > mini PCIe port.  Since it can be accessed at PCIe speeds it isn't bottle
> > necked by the SATA bus, so the read speeds are in gigabytes per second.
> > Or in other words it makes everything hard drive related happen
> > instantly.  Boot times are usually less that 2 to 3 seconds.  Login
> > times are virtually instant.  When you first get one, you will tell your
> > computer to reboot and then wonder why al lt did was logout until you
> > realize that it completely shut down and rebooted to the login screen in
> > less time than your old computer could just logout.
> >
> > Brian Cluff
> >
> > On 7/18/20 12:35 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > > Thanks Brian. The hard drive is actually only 5yo with 2 years of use.
> > > What is a NVMe? What do you think about what I';m thinking about doing
> > > with the NUC?
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 3:29 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
> > > <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> > >> You'll need RAM too... didn't see that in the list.
> > >>
> > >> I would also make sure that you get a motherboard that has a place for
> > >> at least 1 NVMe.  Then I would recommend that you get at least one
> > >> NVMe.  It doesn't have to be huge, but if you can put at least your OS
> > >> on the NVMe, it will make your whole machine feel 50 times faster than
> > >> if you keep using a 10 year old hard drive.... Trust me, it will be
> > >> worth every cent to get it.
> > >>
> > >> I would also recommend getting an AMD machine right now.  You can get
> a
> > >> whole lot more for your money right now with AMD.
> > >>
> > >> BTW  What's the price range you are looking at spending?
> > >>
> > >> Brian Cluff
> > >>
> > >> On 7/17/20 11:11 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > >>> I think I figured out what I want to do..... I'm going to buy a
> > >>> chassis, motherboard, CPU, and power supply and then frankenstein the
> > >>> hard drive, the wireless card, and the video card from the old
> machine
> > >>> (got to do this as cheaply as I can). What else could I frankenstein?
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 10:25 PM Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> Wellp, I am going to do something I never have done before..... I'm
> > >>>> going to get a new computer. Well I think I'll have one put
> > >>>> together.... I'll put it together. Where would go to get a chassis
> and
> > >>>> motherboard then I'll put all of the other guts in. Is such an
> animal
> > >>>> in existence?I thought of another NUC but they aren't like what they
> > >>>> were. Should I wait until black Friday and get a windows machine in
> the sales?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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