video conferencing last night

[Michael Butash]

I use zoom a lot these days, and this is after a lot of initial
resistance.  It works, where most things do not under linux, in better ways
than any other.

While I don't want naked dudes showing up randomly in conferences of mine
with customers any more than playing Monster Hunter World on PS4 with
family on weekends, I fail to see how how this is any better or worse than
Teams, WebEx, or GoToMeeting.  No one has addressed the 3000lb gorilla in
the room of "what about the others?", but I suspect even cisco is probably
wack underneath too, particularly GTM that still can't work with linux
respectably, but no one seems focused on them, only zoom.

Teams has constantly crashed in enterprise meetings the past few weeks,
zoom chugs on.  Webex works mostly, but I've heard customers grumbling that
use it.  Zoom mostly works, despite their (self-imposed) bad PR.

Sounds like marketing to me, and while Zoom got caught with their pants
down, I still don't assume they're any worse than the others.

IMHO.

-mb



On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 5:27 PM Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> I will not use zoom with all the privacy and security problems it's having.
>
> On 4/8/20 4:52 PM, der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > moin moin,
> >
> > it did not go well
> >
> > We were chatting in jitsi prior to starting, but once I started the
> > meeting I could no longer hear others.
> >
> > We moved to bluejeans and a couple of us were not able to connect.
> >
> > Afterwards I tested zoom with Mac. Had some issues there as well. Sound
> > kept getting reset. Perhaps that's what was happening with jitsi. As I
> > wasn't presenting in zoom, we took time to get my client reset.
> >
> > I haven't had that type of problem with either jitsi or zoom in the past.
> > Perhaps it was something I was doing last night.
> >
> > In testing zoom, I discovered that attendees have to present a name and
> > email address. Neither have to be accurate and the domain doesn't need to
> > exist.
> >
> > We were able to test making me a host, giving attendees the mic and
> > taking
> > it away. We're up for more testing tonight if anyone wants to get
> > familiar
> > with the host tools. Not too complicated, but it some unexpected places.
> >
> > zoom requires an app or browser plugin. You can't just use a browser
> > as we
> > can with jitsi and BigBlueButton.
> >
> > We can configure zoom to not allowing anyone into the conference until
> > the
> > host shows up to avoid a Slap Shot style pre-game. (diable Join by host)
> >
> > We can also put attendees in their own waiting rooms until a host places
> > them in the conference. (enable Waiting room)
> >
> > Mac also pointed out that zoom can live stream to YouTube. We can also do
> > that with jitsi. We could then setup the video conferencing for only
> > speakers and moderators and everyone else views via YouTube. We then take
> > questions via IRC or other mechanism. I believe we can do a hidden
> > YouTube
> > broadcast that goes away after the meeting. We could use Brian's account
> > for that or setup a new account.
> >
> > Let me know if you'd like to help with testing tonight.
> >
> > ciao,
> >
> > der.hans
>
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