OT: Non-Geek wants honest Registrar and Host service

Michael Butash michael at butash.net
Sun Sep 1 21:15:42 MST 2019


I've moved all my domains to google, good or bad opinion of the org, it's
far better than godaddy I moved from.

Being an early godaddy person out here, there was some pride in keeping my
domains there from early years, even hosting, but after acquisition, they
filled with ex-microsofties and ex-yahoo-ers (who?), there wasn't much left
aside from bleeding rocks as people.  Just another faceless machine now
with ambiguous purpose and dubious value.  Not entirely sure how they exist
these days as not the cheapest and far from the best...

I don't host anything these days, but I just know I wouldn't host there.

Hosting anything, best to see how good their peering is and round-trip time
to servers it's on from where you and your potential visitors are coming
from.  Running mtr (an enhanced traceroute) against their servers tells you
quick if you want to be there or not.

-mb




On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 6:46 PM Stephen Partington <cryptworks at gmail.com>
wrote:

> For Nam services only Google DNS is really easy to use with some nice
> features. Cloudflares foray into DNS is staggeringly awesome and with many
> features and a scalable learning curve. Aka easy to use but you can do more
> as you are ready. And of course you have their other services immediately
> available. They also will do all your ssl but not the same way let's
> encrypt does. And finally dreamhost is also pretty good. But they are
> better geared to hosting and their DNS services reflect that.
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 4:58 PM Mark Phillips <mark at phillipsmarketing.biz>
> wrote:
>
>> I use NameSilo as a domain registrar and Linode for hosting. I have been
>> happy with them for years now.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 1:34 AM David Schwartz <
>> newsletters at thetoolwiz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I use a company local to Phoenix as my primary registrar, NameSilo.
>>>
>>> For hosting, I use Eleven2.
>>>
>>> In general, I don’t recommend using the same for both.
>>>
>>> I used NameCheap, and they’re owned by the same borg entity that owns
>>> HostGator and tons of other hosting providers. But I’ve used them for years
>>> for name registrations.
>>>
>>> The thing I like about NameSilo is they give you a domain name Privacy
>>> option for FREE forever. NameCheap used to be for one year, but they may
>>> have changed. GoDaddy charges an absurd amount for it starting from the
>>> get-go.
>>>
>>> “Honesty” is relative in the domain world. They all have their policies
>>> and they all enforce their polices. But some are far worse than others.
>>>
>>> The “other” big registrar in Phx has a very “honest” bunch of policies
>>> that railroad you into spending a HUGE amount if you forget to renew your
>>> domain on-time. NameSilo and NameCheap are far more forgiving, and give you
>>> 30 days to renew your domain at the regular renewal rate. They’re all quite
>>> “honest” about it, as long as you read their TOS and pay close attention to
>>> what’s there.
>>>
>>> There’s also an area that isn’t talked about much, and I don’t really
>>> even know what to call it. But you might think that every cPanel / WHM
>>> hosting provider is the same, since they run the same hosting software.
>>> I’ve found that’s not true. Nor is it “dishonest”, either.
>>>
>>> There are several dozen settings that can be enabled or disabled on
>>> cPanel / WHM installations, and there are various plugins that the host can
>>> also include if they want.
>>>
>>> The net effect is, there are some such providers that I’d say tend
>>> strongly towards the “paranoid” side of the scale, while others bend the
>>> other way.
>>>
>>> NameCheap is a very “paranoid” host. If you want maximum security
>>> against hackers and invaders, you’ll like them. They get that distinction
>>> because they have a habit of disabling all sorts of UI options that have
>>> even the slightest whiff of something a hacker could use to get into your
>>> hosting account.
>>>
>>> I put up with this for a few months, and then moved to Eleven2, who is
>>> far more relaxed about things.
>>>
>>> That said, you can always get a VPS, then install cPanel / WHM or any
>>> other control panel, and tweak it however you like.
>>>
>>> Personally, I have a “shared reseller” type hosting account (ie, one
>>> that includes WHM) at Eleven2. Shared hosting tends to overload the servers
>>> after a while, but they usually don’t put as many “reseller” accounts on a
>>> host as regular (single cPanel) accounts — maybe by a factor of 10-to-1 or
>>> more — so they don’t fill up as fast.
>>>
>>> But if your shared hosting account starts to slow down, and if you’ve
>>> been there for a while, ask to have it moved to a newer server. That’s very
>>> easy to do with cPanel accounts, and the places I’ve been tend to be fairly
>>> accommodating if only because they’d rather not lose you to another host
>>> just because they don’t want to spend 5 minutes moving your account.
>>>
>>> -David Schwartz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Victor Odhner <vodhner at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> A friend who is totally non-technical wants to move their WordPress from
>>> the current registry and hosting service, and is looking for is good
>>> providers of registry and hosting, with the most honest reputations within
>>> a reasonable cost.
>>>
>>> A few years ago I worked with NameCheap, and have heard fairly good
>>> stories.
>>>
>>> I’ve heard some registrars are in a better chance to negotiate transfer
>>> of a name which may be owned by the current registrar.
>>>
>>> I’m pretty sure my friend was spoon-fed the setup with a single phone
>>> call, and might find a change too complicated. I am personally free of [
>>> *largest-of-local-providers*], so my bias is towards running away from [
>>> *that*], but I don’t really know what choices are “out there” for
>>> innocent button-pressing clients.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any advice,
>>> Victor Odhner
>>>
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