Topic split. Arch on laptops.

[Stephen Partington]

Interesting on both issues. I am assuming you use UEFI and secureboot?

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 9:19 PM Michael Butash <michael at butash.net> wrote:

> The ubuntu issue making me switch with vitriol is somewhat different.  I
> simply can't switch to another DE now under ubuntu, and I hate what ubuntu
> did to gnome3.  Any other DE but ubuntu's simply crashes and dumps me back
> to login.  No idea why, and oddly I can't find much about it from others.
> It was merely impetus to evacuate ubuntu further, but like crack I can't
> seem to break free.
>
> I ran 16.04 before on my xps15.  Old kernels worked ok with bumblebee, but
> sucked at everything else, including my dell thunderbolt/usb3 dock.  I'd
> get random network timeouts, the usb bus would just sorta die randomly.
> Lovely feature, really.
>
> Upgrading it fixed TB3, but fubar'd bumblebee/gpu interaction, and
> powertop just sorta said I was causing planetary doom with consumption all
> the time.  It worked, but used power like crazy.  I'd be lucky to get an
> hour of batter life, mostly due to the stupid intel vs. nvidia vs.
> bumblebee issues on it.  Stable network and function vs. heat - I'll take
> it.  I was hoping moving to arch they might have fixed some of this
> stupidity ubuntu could obviously never figure out.
>
> Why do I hate 18.04?  Other than above gpu issues, I upgrade to find my
> right click on the touchpad not working, a distinct lack of a minimize
> button on my windows, and various things that simply didn't work out of box
> I needed to find workarounds for.  Upgrading out of sheer morbid curiosity
> to 18.10 didn't fix anything, and in fact made most worse.  I just hate
> ubuntu now, and would really like to never deal with it again.
>
> I need to make a decent arch linux vm image I can clone and reuse, as
> ubuntu is even more annoying with failed upgrades as a server.  I really
> hate having to rebuild everything every few years, but it does keep me in
> practice.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 8:00 PM Stephen Partington <cryptworks at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> To follow up Mike's Conversation earlier about arch on a laptop I am
>> actually curious about the issue you had.
>>
>> I have had really good success with arch on laptops lately. And with the
>> release of Ubuntu 18.04 Ubuntu has been really amenable.
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