what sort of use cases/memory_needs/etc (was RE: Warranty!!?!?!?!?!)

Stephen Partington cryptworks at gmail.com
Wed Sep 6 15:55:40 MST 2017


I am currently running 24gb ram and would use more. But I have a
combination of VM use, photography (ram goes fast when you have 24mp raw)
gaming and other strange tasks going.

On Sep 6, 2017 1:48 PM, "Carruth, Rusty" <Rusty.Carruth at smartm.com> wrote:

> Well, we've kind of strayed from the original topic, so I'll do a
> pre-emptive strike and change the subject.  Hopefully nobody gets mad...
>
> So, I'm impressed by the memory/cpu load that Mr Graham has on his
> computer.  And I thought I was a hog... er, I mean heavy resource user!  (I
> once was moved to my own personal Sun Sparc computer because I kept beating
> up the shared one getting work done...)
>
> But I agree with him that 16G is getting close to the minimum required
> amount if you do much web browsing with lots of tabs (Ok, he didn't exactly
> say that, but it was implied).  (Moment of openness - I once had 50 tabs in
> a single Firefox window, and there were at least 4 other Firefox windows
> running.  At this point in time, I have 17 firefox windows running, with a
> total of 32+5+14+17+10+17+32+30+14+98+12+60+16+1+12+3+18+40.  Whoa, that
> even surprised me.  Anyway, 'only' 5G of ram in use on this 16G windows
> machine...)
>
> Also, I don't consider a thin client to be useful for anything but a work
> machine which is unable to leave the office.  Too many ways to have things
> not work (or be hacked/etc)..  IMHO, of course :-)
>
> Rusty
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.phxlinux.org] On
> Behalf Of Matt Graham
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 1:38 PM
> To: Main PLUG discussion list
> Subject: Re: Warranty!!?!?!?!?!
>
> On 2017-09-06 12:26, techlists at phpcoderusa.com wrote:
> > What are you doing that requires a top of the line CPU, 32G RAM, and a
> > 1T SSD?
>
> Android development?  :-)  An Android project someone else put together
> here uses some sort of library or syntactic sugar combination that makes
> compiles peg the CPU for several minutes when one line of one file's
> changed.  (Java's always been a bloated sack, but this is kind of
> unusual.)
>
> > Given that [using someone else's computer as a vital part of whatever
> > you're doing], a baseline laptop with decent graphics, 8G RAM, and a
> > 128G SSD should be enough.
>
> Maybe for some really lightweight use cases.  git assumes you have
> infinite storage space.  Any nontrivial node.js project will eat 512M in
> node_modules dependencies.  The Android Studio support directory here is
> 42G.  The graphic design people here said that there was no way they could
> get by with machines that had only 256G SSDs, because .psd files are huge.
> And these are work machines.  You'd have to add the space music and media
> collections take up to personal machines.
>
> > Unless one is running many local virtual machines, doing some serious
> > video or image work, or doing lots of compiling... I am think the
> > cloud and thin client hardware is the way to go.
>
> If you have a 100% reliable and fast network, and your disk space needs
> are tiny, and your external service provider won't die, this *might* work.
> Being able to work (and play) on a personal machine without external
> dependencies is useful in enough circumstances that I wouldn't consider
> buying a thin client as anything other than a toy.
>
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