computer slow

Brien Dieterle briend at gmail.com
Mon Oct 30 16:07:16 MST 2017


Well, it might be protecting your computer but if it is too low it will
just be annoying.
You still need to run sensors and get those numbers if you haven't yet:

https://askubuntu.com/questions/15832/how-do-i-get-the-cpu-temperature

If your machine is legitimately overheating you need to address that with
fans and ventilation, etc.

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> if there is a shutoff point you did say disable it?
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, you're on the right track.  Try to isolate whether glmark alone can
>> crash it, or if you need stress as well.   Then try opening up your case
>> and point a fan in there.
>> Also don't forget to check the BIOS for thermal management events that
>> might be causing the shutdown/reboot.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> never mind..... I ran glmark around 5 minutes and then stress. that
>>> crashed the machine! Not a nice reboot (like what it does with dt) but a
>>> power failure outage,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> and if glmark2 doesn't crash it run stress the same amount of time?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> how long do I let glmark2's pretty horse rotate?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> okay
>>>>>> `
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd wait.   If stress alone doesn't crash, run glmark2 by itself.
>>>>>>> If glmark2 doesn't crash, run them both at the same time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> run this now or after stress completes?
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, not yet ;-).   If it doesn't crash, you might need to stress
>>>>>>>>> the graphics card as well with one of these tools:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.pcsuggest.com/gpu-benchmarking-and-stress-testin
>>>>>>>>> g-in-linux/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So maybe kick off both stress and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> glmark2 --run-forever
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if it doesn't crash I'll start hounding the darktable forums.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just started..... lets see what happens
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>> briend at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Forget darktable for now.  Did you run stress test for more
>>>>>>>>>>>> than 10 seconds?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This will run a stress test for 30 minutes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2  --hdd 2 --timeout 1800s
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can get it to crash with just this stress program, then
>>>>>>>>>>>> it has nothing to do with darktable
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no sensors running and as for it panicing when warm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes it panics after I run dt 2 minutes after it had been shut down an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hour  and doesn't panic even though dt had run10 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check your bios settings for hardware monitoring and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature limits.  You may have it set with a maximum temperature so the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine panics when it's just warm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try raising this number or disabling the feature entirely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But first check your sensors by installing a temperature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitoring program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017 1:04 PM, "Michael" <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is sooo ify! I just ran it for like 10 minutes with no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crashes whereas before I had just started the computer and ran dt for 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes and it crashed. Then I restarted and I had a repeat performance of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 2 minute thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  $ stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 128M --timeout
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] dispatching hogs: 8 cpu, 4 io, 2 vm, 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hdd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] successful run completed in 10s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I don't know what that was suppossed to tell me but there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am experiencing no slowness. It is like the days where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you had a power switch on the back of your computer... or it is like a hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Stephen Partington <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenCL in darktable mainly impacts rendering. it should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no effect on on system or ram consumption unless you are experiencing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slowness during render cycles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know.... I'm having trouble running darktable. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems that after I start it it runs a few minutes and then reboots the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. Probably because I do not have a GPU (I don't think). Then I saw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this thread and thought that I'd give that a try. So it seems I can not run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chrome and darktable at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'lspci' shows that my graphics card is :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 'lspci|grep gpu' returned an empty set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (if I did that correctly)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I suppose the cheapest way to fix this is to get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gpu.... correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Carruth, Rusty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rusty.Carruth at smartm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my experience, it’s almost always Firefox taking all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of memory. (Or Chrome, or whatever web browser you’re using).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Mr B, run top or htop and see what’s,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, on top ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at l
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ists.phxlinux.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Butash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:05 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: computer slow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I ever have that, it's usually because of something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a memory leak, or desktop graphic compositing is degrading over time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you reboot, see if you can ssh into it from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another computer and check htop (or just top all you have), see if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is consuming all your memory or cpu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop compositors are all shite from what I can tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (including windoze), they're all just a varying degree of broken when you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push them, or just have a slow (or buggy) video card.  Depending on your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop environment of choice, try turning down graphics options, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabling the compositor all together to see if it helps stability.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -mb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm almost certain that in my bag of tricks I had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions on 'resetting' my computer when it started acting weird but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't find them. Riddle me this: I try to leave the computer on 24/7 (maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I shouldn't do that) and twice so far I come up to it and it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-responsive or really slow to respond. Anyone know how to fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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