OT: Need a Campaign to Secure WIFI Sites

[Vara La Fey]

"Library services dept." You have too much fun with that.

Familiar with all of those authors, tho not big on The Bard. And I just 
not long ago read Williamson's "Terraforming Earth", which I really 
liked. His grand-scale scope and interesting use of technology reminded 
me a lot of "Marooned In Real-time" by Vernor Vinge, and most things by 
Niven and Niven/cowriters.

Not directly dystopian - usually (but try Fallen Angels by Niven and.... 
uh....?), but interesting. I always loved the Baen Books compilations of 
"Belter" stories, where the independent-minded asteroid mining colonies 
declare independence from a dystopian Earth.

I even wrote a song lyric set in that kind of universe. "This world down 
here is done / so count from 10 to 1 / Leave a cloud of dust on the 
horizon / and be free again". Etc. I don't actually think mankind will 
ever make it that far, but I can still hope.

I always recommend Anthem and Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand, and of course 
1984.


On 3/23/2017 8:37 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> I will recommend some authors actually,
>
> Isaac Asimov
> Robert Heinlein
> Jack Williamson (rare if you can find him)
> Arthur Clarke
> Edgar Rice Burrows
> William Shakespear (always a must to understand political intrigue)
> and many others.
>
> -eric
> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Library Services Dept.
>
> On Mar 23, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Vara La Fey wrote:
>
>> I'm with ya, and I don't know what is required reading now. I'm 
>> afraid to find out. Assuming reading more than tweets even /is 
>> /required anymore.
>>
>> I grew up on hard sci-fi, prolly like a lot of us here, so dystopian 
>> fiction is definitely an influence on how I see things. As are the 
>> things themselves. Just seeing them /potentially /merge is scary. I'm 
>> not ashamed of being hair-triggered about that. Someone has to be. 
>> The more the better, I say.
>>
>> What books do you recommend? But since I'm currently on 8 distinct 
>> (yet interrelated) learning curves, I don't promise to get through 
>> very many of them. I feel a bit guilty even asking, but what the hey?
>>
>> - Vara
>>
>>
>> On 3/23/2017 6:07 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>>> ah yes, George Orwell should be required reading for everyone in 
>>> high school or first year college.
>>>
>>> There are also some other books that might bear reading (and some of 
>>> them even have a take on the current technological and political 
>>> situation).
>>>
>>> -eric
>>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, You can't take it 
>>> with you dept.
>>>
>>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 5:57 PM, Vara La Fey wrote:
>>>
>>>> The "3 Minute Hate" was a reference to "1984", which the intended 
>>>> system of "three minutes" of semi-mandatory content reminded me of 
>>>> /because /it is an intended system of "three minutes" of 
>>>> semi-mandatory content.
>>>>
>>>> I don't hate anybody here, and I have no reason to think that 
>>>> proponents of this spyware/monitoring/chastising system do either. 
>>>> I merely assumed that intelligent techies near my own age would 
>>>> understand the reference, even if they don't agree with my comparison.
>>>>
>>>> I fully mean my criticisms of the system, of proposing to 
>>>> self-righteously take up time belonging to people who are not 
>>>> associated with you, and of it's abuse potential beyond the abuse 
>>>> already inherent /in /it.
>>>>
>>>> You don't have to be an internet techie to see that. Or to hit an 
>>>> overly-defensive nerve.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/23/2017 4:53 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:50:50 -0700
>>>>> Vara La Fey<varalafey at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please, waste time and effort and money patenting your /spyware
>>>>>> /chaperone system that monitors web activity with the intent of
>>>>>> /creating consequences /for activity which you - or your intended
>>>>>> customer - opines is "invalid". I doubt very many people will buy
>>>>>> into it because there is no upside for them. Even when they alter it
>>>>>> to fit their own agenda, they just anger their customers who can
>>>>>> click OK for EULAs and enter logins, but cannot bypass your 3 Minute
>>>>>> Hate.
>>>>> Hate?
>>>>>
>>>>> Pot/Kettle
>>>>>
>>>>> A look back on Vara La Fey's previous posts shows Vara La Fey short on
>>>>> tech and long on very nasty criticism.
>>>>>
>>>>> Five minutes ago I procmailed Vara La Fey out of my life.
>>>>>
>>>>> :0:
>>>>> * ^From:.*VLF_email_address
>>>>> * ^(To|Cc).*plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
>>>>> $GARBAGE
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody who agrees with me would be doing themselves a favor (and
>>>>> lowering their blood pressure) by doing the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> SteveT
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