An Internet Giveaway to the U.N.

[Eric Oyen]

well, so long as you have IP addresses, names are not that important. That is the key right there. since ICANN deals mostly with assigned names, it should be easy to work around.

now, this may be a tauter simplistic view of the problem and solution, but then, it's the simplest solutions that often work best.

Mind you, I am not an expert on the net generally or its infrastructure in particular (no one is). My specialty involves security and that is where I am good at things. everything else would require additional study for me (and at my age, there just wouldn't be enough time to learn it all and still keep up with all the changing tech).

So, your question, as stated, seems like a paradox. In some ways, it is, but in others, there is simply no issue.

-eric

On Aug 29, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Keith Smith wrote:

> 
> How can we circumvent the current system and use the current infrastructure?
> 
> 
> On 2016-08-29 10:00, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> ok, I see some issues here.
>> first off, I am a conservative. I don't hide it but, then, I don't
>> trumpet it either. As far as I am concerned, politics should have very
>> little to do with technology or how it gets implemented.
>> Unfortunately, politics has injected itself into our very lives in the
>> form of regulations, some of which govern how we can use the net. To
>> my mind, that is a very bad thing. if you really want to see examples
>> of how bad it can get, take a look at china, russia, the entire middle
>> east, and some places in South America.
>> now that I have dispensed with the politics, I want to get down to how
>> we work around onerous control of the net. Someone else suggested a
>> mesh network. That's all fine and good until you want to communicate
>> outside of the local area. So, how do we expand this idea? This is
>> where innovation in technology comes into play. It's purely technical
>> and solves a problem (and no politics involved).
>> so, there it is, how do we work around this problem and not get
>> political doing it?
>> -eric
>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 9:46 AM, Nathan England wrote:
>>> Amazing how clear every thing becomes when you take a deep breath!... and
>>> burry your head in the sand.
>>> On Monday, August 29, 2016 1:43:22 AM MST stevensspam at cox.net wrote:
>>>> My suggestion?
>>>> Taking a deep breath, pouring the Koolaid down the drain instead of drinking
>>>> it, and repeating to yourself, "I should really stop jumping on every
>>>> conspiracy bandwagon I see."
>>>> Seriously, I have little doubt that if we had a republican president and a
>>>> democratic majority in congress was attempting to block this very same
>>>> change you would see articles criticizing the block and talking about how
>>>> government can't do anything right. What's going on now is that instead of
>>>> a single company holding a government granted monopoly to run the DNS and
>>>> numbering system there would be a group of companies and organizations
>>>> doing the same thing -- with a US threat to seize control of it again if
>>>> they misbehave.
>>>> And as for fears this will lead to balkanization brought up in another post
>>>> -- there have been threats to balkanize the Internet if control of the DNS
>>>> system remained a monopoly held by a single US company or government
>>>> agency. This is probably a damned it you do, damned if you don't decision.
>>>> In the long run it's probably inevitable that no matter which way this
>>>> decision goes there will be more fracturing. We're probably very lucky to
>>>> have gone this far with as little fracturing as there has been. I can even
>>>> see Moral Majority types on the right demanding tighter controls over the
>>>> Internet in the US to crack down on "adult" content which would pretty much
>>>> require making a US Internet with closely watched gateways to the outside
>>>> (censorship and political correctness are not something unique or
>>>> restricted to the right or left, there's just different names attached).
>>>> Having thing not being run by one single company operating under a
>>>> government granted monopoly might make it just a slight bit harder for that
>>>> to happen.
>>>> But really, I suppose we should panic. It's not as if the conspiracy
>>>> theorists have ever been wrong. After all Texas has been under Martial Law
>>>> ever since Jade Helm, every Hurricane for decades has resulted in thousands
>>>> disappearing into FEMA death camps, there's all folks who lost homes to
>>>> imminent domain to built the Mexi-Canadian superhighway that's exempt from
>>>> US jurisdiction, and after a decade I still haven't gotten used to these
>>>> new Ameros that replaced the dollar...
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