do I understand this correctly?

[Michael Havens]

is this the correct understanding  apt-get's stable/testing/unstable?
If I'm wrong could you teach me?

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is it correct that with apt-get unstable refers to the amount of testing
> done with the system? I do not think it refers the alfa/beta status of the
> program.
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> to the mint forums I go! Thanks for your help Mark. I'll post what I find
>> out there after I hear back from them.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Mark Phillips <
>> mark at phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 3, 2015 11:14 AM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > so then, <version> is just for lower than the version that are in the
>>> apt-cache.
>>>
>>> Actually, the version you want has to be in your sources.list.
>>>
>>> glad I'm talking to you all about this because I just discovered that
>>> after you run <package>=<version> you need to run :
>>> >
>>> > sudo echo “package hold” | sudo dpkg –set-selections
>>>
>>> Only if you don't want the package upgraded at the next apt-get upgrade.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > I also discovered that to find the versions in the repository you  run:
>>> >
>>> > apt-cache showpkg packagename
>>> >
>>> > so is there no way to force a version into apt-cache?
>>>
>>> The sources.list just says where to find a package. Sort of like a big
>>> phone book...if you don't have the white pages for Ajo, you can't find your
>>> friend's phone number who lives in Ajo. Once you get the Ajo book, you have
>>> access to everyone's phone number in Ajo, but you are only interested in
>>> your friend's number.
>>>
>>> Pinning tells apt to only use the 2011 edition of the Ajo phone book to
>>> look up your friend's phone number, even though you now subscribe to the
>>> latest version of the Ajo phone book. You still have all the latest phone
>>> numbers on hand, which does not impact your selection of the 2011 phone
>>> number for your friend's phone number.
>>>
>>> I just tried to force the installation of the unstable version of the
>>> package (sudo apt-get install kmymoney/unstable) but it seems as if it
>>> isn't called 'unstable' in mint (ubuntu). Am I doing it wrong? What are the
>>> Archives called in Mint (ubuntu)
>>>
>>> Sorry, I have never used mint. Just a long time Debian user who recently
>>> switched to Ubuntu for my desktop with my new laptop...It came
>>> pre-installed. ;-)
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> >
>>> > :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> help immensely. Thank you Mark.
>>> >>
>>> >> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Mark Phillips <
>>> mark at phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Michael,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If all you have is the stable branch in your sources.list, then you
>>> won't have access to any of the testing packages, even if you specify
>>> testing on the command line with apt-get. apt-get has to know where to find
>>> the package you want to download, which is why sources.list exists. If you
>>> want to be able to install both testing and stable packages, then you have
>>> to have both stable and testing branches listed in your sources.list.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If you want to hold a package to a specific version or branch
>>> (stable, testing, experimental), then you can "pin" that package to that
>>> version, and all future updates will only use that version. Take a look at
>>> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html. However, you still have
>>> to have the correct repositories listed in sources.list, and you have to
>>> run an apt-get upgrade to update the local cache so the OS knows where to
>>> find the packages you want.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hope that helps!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Mark
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:02 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by
>>> >>>> following the package name with an equals (=) and the version of
>>> the package to select. This will cause that version to be located and
>>> selected for install. Alternatively, a specific distribution can be
>>> selected by following the package name with a slash (/) and the version of
>>> the distribution or the Archive name (i.e. stable, testing, unstable).
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> source: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> So this is saying to me you don't need the PPA to install the
>>> latest version but can instead do:
>>> >>>> <package>=<version>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If that is so we don't need to add PPAs to our systems. IN other
>>> words PPAs are just a way to make it so that we are always running the
>>> latest version of the package regardless of if it works whereas we choose
>>> what we want to run with:
>>> >>>> <package>=<version>
>>> >>>> That is very Linuxy of them!
>>> >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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