More H-2B visas

Keith Smith techlists at phpcoderusa.com
Fri Dec 18 15:26:00 MST 2015


On 2015-12-18 13:39, David Schwartz wrote:
> Do you mean H-1B visas?

I read H2 - non agricultural workers.

I see it is low skilled workers.  Sorry to post here.  I thought it 
meant anyone except agricultural workers.  My apologies.


https://www.numbersusa.com/news/spending-bill-quadruple-h-2b-visas-2016


> 
> This is really sad, because there’s already so much fraud around this
> that it’s silly. Congress knows about it, and they have refused to do
> anything to address it.
> 
> There are tons of Indian recruiting firms that set up shop
> specifically to funnel their friends here under H-1B visas. I’m
> contacted by them regularly. The only thing they want to know is your
> “rate and availability”, then they almost always tell me that the
> client isn’t willing to pay more than $22 or $23 per hour, or a salary
> above $55k-$60k. This is for supposedly “senior” roles!
> 
> I think they’re simply trying to document the “fact” that they’re
> unable to hire US Citizens for these jobs in order to justify
> somebody’s H-1B visa.
> 
> The major impetus behind this effort has come from the biggest
> software employers in the country: Microsoft, HP, Apple, Oracle, IBM,
> etc.
> 
> It costs them $50k to prosecute every one of these visas! That’s on
> top of salary and benefits.
> 
> See, this is what happens when taxes are so low that there’s no

Please explain what you mean by low taxes.


> leverage to implement tax benefits. They’d rather spend $50k to hire a
> foreigner and bring them over here than spend a plugged nickel on
> retraining unemployed US Citizens.
> 
> H-1B job holders also have a “hidden benefit” in that it’s a
> guaranteed job until their green card issues, which takes between five
> and ten years right now.
> 
> To reward taxpayers for this, we’re being shoved into contract roles
> with no benefits so they can cut costs quickly if their financials
> take a hit. No job security, no retirement, no health benefits.
> 
> But those foreigners coming here under H-1B visas … they’re making out
> like bandits!
> 
> Has anybody noticed how few employers are paying relocation expenses
> these days? Wouldn’t you love to be treated the same was new college
> grads from India and Pakistan?
> 
> At least Congress could reverse Section 1706 of the Tax Code that
> eliminates the “safe harbor” provision for contractors in the tech
> industry. This is what forces most companies to hire through job shops
> rather than hire 1099 contractors directly. Lots of industries are
> exploding by accessing labor directly as 1099 contractors, except the
> tech industry is still saddled with this stupid and counter-productive
> restriction that has never done what it was believed it would.
> 
> -David "The Tool Wiz" Schwartz
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Keith Smith <techlists at phpcoderusa.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just read this about our U.S.Government spending bill :
>> 
>> Tucked into the 2,009-page spending bill is a provision that would 
>> quadruple the number of H-2B visas allowed annually from 66,000 to 
>> 264,000.
>> 
>> I wonder how may of the tech companies in the Chandler Price Corridor 
>> will be taking advantage of this while being subsidised by the City of 
>> Chandler.
>> 
>> I expect most of those companies use Linux in one form or another.
>> 
>> 
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