email database

Fri May 31 18:27:10 MST 2013

ohhhhhh.... thanks for that!
:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>wrote:

> Mike,
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> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> i'm not doing internet marketing..... I am targeting specific people who
>> are owed money. If they don't like the service I am offering they never
>> hear from me again. :)
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
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> That is specifically what is referred to as Non-solicited bulk email
> marketing. I.E. SPAM  UBE (unsolicited bulk email):
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_spam
>
> To send non-solicited email to individuals you MUST meet various
> requirements - OPT OUT link at the bottom of all mail with content/subject
> meeting requirements.
>
> What IS the difference between a mailinglist and a spam list:
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> http://www.spamhaus.org/whitepapers/mailinglists/
>
> The bottom line here is that (excerpt):
>
> *In the event of a "spam" accusation:*
>
> The Bulk Email Sender has no verifiable proof that the recipient consented
> to be placed on the bulk mailing list and is therefore liable for having
> sent Unsolicited Bulk Email a/k/a Spam. Action can be taken against the
> Sender. The sending of Unsolicited Bulk Email is against all ISP Terms of
> Service worldwide, is illegal in many countries, and is against Spamhaus
> SBL policy.
>
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>>
>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Email pharming and phishing is a "well" developed part of internet
>>> marketing.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Derek Trotter <expat.arizonan at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Good luck finding a database that will be useful.  It's very easy to
>>>> change email addresses.  Also it's easy to get an email address without
>>>> giving your real name or any other real information.  I've had one for
>>>> several years.  When I signed up for it, Yahoo asked me where I lived.  I
>>>> told them I live in Beverly Hills.  I know snail mail is more expensive,
>>>> but you have a better chance of reaching customers who live in the area
>>>> you're targeting.  You might look online and find an email address for John
>>>> Smith, but is that the John Smith in Cottonwood, or is it the John smith in
>>>> Barrow, or one in Melbourne?
>>>>
>>>> To get accurate email addresses, you would be better off putting up a
>>>> request on your business website.  If you have a form on the site,
>>>> customers can use that.  Just be sure to code the form so that someone
>>>> can't see the email address the submissions will be going to.  Also you can
>>>> give an email address, but write out everything instead of using . and @.
>>>> For example: greg dot house at vicodin dot com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/30/2013 08:59 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm in a new business venture and I need to find peoples email
>>>> addresses to make the process easier. Otherwise I will have to go the
>>>> snail-mail route. Does anyone know of a database tht matches names to email
>>>> addresses? My web search gave me two (http://usenet-addresses.mit.edu/
>>>> http://www.netlib.org/na-net/search_mail_forw.html) but I didn't find
>>>> any searched for addresses. (no I am not getting into spamming people)
>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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>>> You pretty much need to have your customers opt in to really use email
>>> marketing successfully.  Therefore, companies generally have contests or
>>> require a registration that creates a list for mass mailings that can be
>>> exported to something like OpenEMM or a MailMonkey list plugin to a CMS
>>> (like drupal, Concrete5 or Wordpress).
>>>
>>> There are many tools that will walk large numbers of websites scraping
>>> off email addresses and you can but marketing lists that are guaranteed to
>>> be successful for various types of products.
>>>
>>>  If you are planning to do email marketing you will need a completely
>>> functional unsubscribe link (like that provided from OpenEMM) for the
>>> bottom of your emails.
>>>
>>> You will also require a static IP address (that has a perfectly unique
>>> reverse DNS that is not designated in the SWIP database as "dynamic" like
>>> those from cox to get around spamassassin scoring issues, and SPF records.
>>>
>>> But if you are serious about getting email addresses (and other
>>> information) simply by the use of name/city search, you might get or write
>>> an API that will do a quick search/scrape of sites like spokeo.com that
>>> generally contain a great deal of public information.
>>>
>>> Spokeo's paid service WILL most often provide what you need.  Writing
>>> the php, perl or python script that does the lookup for you automatically
>>> and scrapes the email address(es) into your database is also very trivial:
>>>
>>> http://www.mozenda.com/email-extractor
>>>
>>> There are other free search services (which I posted some years ago to
>>> discuss) that have an incredible amount of private information.  Here's the
>>> full list:
>>>
>>> https://www.privacyrights.org/online-information-brokers-list
>>>
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