OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate

Bryan O'Neal Bryan.ONeal at TheONealAndAssociates.com
Tue May 7 18:31:32 MST 2013


Data exchange can be done - If I can pipe xen cart on LAMP into quick books
on windows real time after a weekend of playing around I am sure some one
like intuit will have way to cover you. That said - it will take a year or
two for the dust to settle and it will cost people to comply. But if you
sell $1M/year and you can not afford a $1500 bump in expenses I would say
your margins are too thin to survive. As far as remittance most states
allow you to do the monthly remittance online. I wrote a simple script for
the sate of AZ so again, I think biger software companies can handle making
it very simple for you. And again, if you are doing a mill in sales and you
are not using some form of software that has active development you will
have problems.
What I am trying to say is the concept is not as daunting as it may sound.
The problem is not in the concept, however the execution will be very
painful. And this will cause a lot of problems for a lot of people.


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:19 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:

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> It will not be as simple as tying one software package into another.  What
> if the provided software runs on Win8 and your cart is running on a LAMP
> server?
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> Keith Smith
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> --- On *Tue, 5/7/13, Bryan O'Neal <Bryan.ONeal at TheONealAndAssociates.com>*wrote:
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> From: Bryan O'Neal <Bryan.ONeal at TheONealAndAssociates.com>
>
> Subject: Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
> Date: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 6:11 PM
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> The real problem is internal US internet sales will be less competitive.
>  The regulations will be difficult at first but within a few years they
> will just tie the sales software into the tax software and it will be easy
> to calculate and deal with in real time with very little additional cost.
> The solution to competition is either use of an import tax or forcing
> compliance on any one who sells inside the us. And our sales to the outside
> will not be effected because other countries are not doing this... So
> purchasing from the US if you happen to be in some non US company looks
> just the same. In all truth... Sales tax is more progressive then income
> tax, so.... I am not sure I have an issue with it more then the
> predefined statement that TAXES ARE TOO DAM HIGH!
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Jason Poulter <polt at snaptek.com<http://mc/compose?to=polt@snaptek.com>
> > wrote:
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> It will just force people to buy things from sites and countries where
> they don't collect taxes , so really justs hurt the economy more losing out
> on sales that make economy better
>
>
> Eric Cope <eric.cope at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=eric.cope@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
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> http://blog2.easydns.org/2013/05/07/go-ahead-pass-the-internet-tax-your-foreign-competitors-thank-you-in-advance/
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> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=cryptworks@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> I also envision allot of quote building instead of online direct purchase.
> On May 7, 2013 1:43 PM, "keith smith" <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
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> Great idea.  Phone orders only, placed through a local terminal not the
> website.  Excellent!!
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> Keith Smith
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> --- On *Tue, 5/7/13, James Finstrom <jfinstrom at rhinoequipment.com<http://mc/compose?to=jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com>
> >* wrote:
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> From: James Finstrom <jfinstrom at rhinoequipment.com<http://mc/compose?to=jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com>
> >
> Subject: Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org<http://mc/compose?to=plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>
> >
> Date: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 10:11 AM
>
> I predict "call to order" then the sale is not an "internet sale".
>
> Much like companies are cutting employee hours to avoid obamacare people
> will find a way to avoid this.
>
> James Finstrom
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> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:19 AM, JD Austin <jd at twingeckos.com<http://mc/compose?to=jd@twingeckos.com>
> > wrote:
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> Great.. one more way to KILL small business by making them less
> competitive and increasing their overhead.  Companies will just adapt to
> this BS (and regular employees will pay for it).. getting close to
> 1M/year... time to SPLIT THE COMPANY.
>
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> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com<http://mc/compose?to=lisakachold@obnosis.com>
> > wrote:
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> Keith:
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> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:48 AM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
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> The U.S. Senate passed the Internet Sales Tax Bill.  Jeff Flake's office
> says he voted against it and John McCain's office said he voted FOR it.
>
> It is being reported there in some 9,600 taxing authorities in the U.S.
> Add to that 560 or so Indian tribe taxing authorities. That is over 10,000
> taxing authorities.  Yikes!!  Any company with 1 million in sales will be
> required to comply.  I can tell you that a company that has 1 million in
> sales is not a big company.  That online retailer might consist of 2 or 3
> employees with some additional help from a number of consultants and
> potentially a fulfillment center.
>
> From first hand experience, I would say this law, if passed by the U.S.
> House, will cause a bunch of small online retailers to either go out of
> business or reduce sales through raising prices or some other method.
>
> This may very well play out like ObamaCare where companies are reducing
> the hours of their employees so they have less than 50 full-time
> employees.   In other words we will experience the unintended consequences
> of these laws.
>
> These polices effect each of us.
>
>
> Yikes, yes!  And that will provide the revenue to expand Internet
> government regulation and compliance.
>
> Sadly, it had to happen.
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