Lets get back to basics and start solving problems

[Michael Havens]

just get together and everything will be all right!
:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:27 AM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> With all that is going on in the world and my personal life I want to get
> back to basics :   Jesus and the U.S.Constitution.  Life has gotten way too
> complicated.
>
> I do not think man was created to live like we do.  I think things were
> intended to be much simpler.  We need just a handful of rules to live by.
>
> I think a couple simple rules is all we need to make this list work.
> Define what the list is about.
>
> Is this strictly a Linux list - Only the Linux kernel, or GNU Linux, or
> all things open source?   That would make everything else "OT:".
>
> Then there is the dilemma of security.  When does it became off topic?  Is
> it on topic when talking about anything open source?  What about when I use
> my Mozilla browser to connect to a LAMP server and my connection data is
> captured by a corrupt individual or our corrupt Gov't?
>
> Where do I draw that line?
>
> This list worked just fine for 13 or 14 years without a lot of rules.  We
> did have a couple times where people got upset about certain topics,
> however the list always survived.
>
> This is a diverse community that is here for technology.  It may have a
> focus of Linux, however the community has much greater interests and
> concerns.
>
> If there was a thread that talked about where to get the best hotdogs or
> where to get this or that, I might find that interesting even though it
> would be very off topic.  If you want to talk about satanic stuff that is
> fine with me also.  I will provide the opposing argument.
>
> When we talk politics it is in relationship to our common interests, or so
> I would think.  And I would submit is is related to the goals of this list.
>
> Technology is being used for evil. That is what makes these conversations
> relevant to this list.
>
> I think it would be a great thing if we were able to put our differences
> aside and try to work towards real life solutions that may be bigger than
> Linux.
>
> To me this whole OT issue is ironic.  I tend to like to hear other peoples
> thoughts.  For instance I am a Christian Conservative and I would really
> like to have an open and honest conversation with a 99 percenter.  Why?
> Because I think we would discover we both have a lot more in common than we
> might think.
>
> I think that is true about most of the people on this list.  I think we
> all have way more in common than we are willing to acknowledge.
>
> We need to come together and start trying to solve some of these problems
> as a community.  Our world has changed.  We are no longer free to express
> ourselves without the concern of the Gov't listening.
>
> There is a lot of brain power on this list.  If we ever come together we
> would be able to do some really cool stuff.
>
> So what do you say we make things simpler with less rules and lets start
> solving problems.  Let's come together as a list and use our strengths to
> fight evil not each other.
>
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