sudoers mistake

James Dugger james.dugger at gmail.com
Sat Jul 6 13:05:11 MST 2013


Regarding the no password persistency, I don't now without looking at the
total sudoer file.  Just so you know when the file is parsed settings are
taken in order.  So later settings if in conflict override earlier lines.
 As far as the sudoers.d folder if there is nothing in it then it would not
be overriding the settings in sudoer.  sudoer.d is a directory with special
permission settings that provides a way to extend the sudoer file without
modifying it directly.

Caution:  Regarding sudoers.d Adding or modifying files in this directory
without knowing or setting the proper file permissions will render your
system sudo permissions inoperable requiring you to either boot from a live
CD or booting in recovery mode to fix the problem.


On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> you know there appears the text :
>
> # Please consider adding local content in /etc/sudoers.d/ instead of
> # directly modifying this file.
>
> when I invoke visudo. could this have something to do with this present
> challenge?
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> well I just 'vi /etc/group' and deleted <user>. Then <cnt><alt>T, sudo
>> visudo  but it didn't ask for a pass word.
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What do I run? I run an ubuntu derivative, Mint.
>>> I only created one account on this computer (if I remember right).
>>> this is a home used system. I only have one computer I can do this with
>>> so I am stuck with testing on it.
>>> I don't think root's account has been locked in mint as I can 'su root'
>>> <password> and I am super user. Am I assuming correctly?
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:22 AM, James Dugger <james.dugger at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> A few questions:
>>>>
>>>> -What distro  are you using?
>>>> -Do you have more than one user account created on the system?
>>>> -Is your computer/system (the one you are doing this on) for testing
>>>> only or is this a work/home used computer /system?
>>>>
>>>> The reason that I ask is that it is good practice to test changes to a
>>>> system that is not critical to your daily uses. This is especially true for
>>>> Ubuntu where by default the root account is locked.  If you don't have a
>>>> test system and you are using your daily useable system, then you should be
>>>> testing these changes with a test user account not your only actual user
>>>> account.
>>>>
>>>> As to the reason that sudo still works without a password, I am not
>>>> entirely sure but my guess is that the '#' in the /etc/group is being
>>>> ignored.  Usually you remove the user from the group either by:
>>>>
>>>>     gpasswd -d username group
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>   editing the /etc/group and deleting the user from the sudo group.
>>>>
>>>> Caution:  I would test this out with a test user rather than your
>>>> personal user account if you are the only user on the system and root
>>>> account has been disabled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Okay, so I have <user> added to group sudo in /etc/group.
>>>>> tape:x:26:
>>>>> sudo:x:27:bmike1
>>>>> audio:x:29:pulse
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the lines:
>>>>>
>>>>> # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
>>>>> #sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
>>>>> %sudo ALL=(ALL)  NOPASSWD:  ALL
>>>>>
>>>>> in /etc/sudoers and as a result sudo no longer requires a password for
>>>>> my user. I then figured I would test this so I commented out my user in
>>>>> /etc/group (sudo:x:27:#<user>) and then opened a new terminal and typed in
>>>>>  'sudo visudo' fully expecting it to ask for a password but no password was
>>>>> requested. So what's up?
>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:08 PM, James Dugger <james.dugger at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Either create a new group or use an exiting group that is not being
>>>>>> used.  and then add the group to the sido script.  so for a new group:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.  Add a new group to /etc/group with the following command:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     groupadd groupname (where groupname is a single word)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.  Open the /etc/group file and add your username to your new group
>>>>>> as discussed before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3.  Open the sudo script file with visudo and add the groupname
>>>>>> following stanza to the file:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> %groupname ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:  ALL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is basically the same thing.  If you are the only user or admin
>>>>>> on your system than this is overkill and you could just use the %sudo group
>>>>>> stanza as discussed before.  However if you are planning or have serveral
>>>>>> administrators that will have different permissions than it would be best
>>>>>> to re-think not using passwords.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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