OT: Secret spying on your Internet activity?

Tue Jul 2 16:08:43 MST 2013

seems on topic to this off topic discussion...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/text-of-a-july-2-2013-letter-to-edward-snowden-from-his-father-and-fathers-attorney/2013/07/02/e62ff87e-e350-11e2-bffd-37a36ddab820_story.html

Eric

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:01 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Just say no to FEEMA!  If you say no to ObamaCare it will cost you some
> tax dollars (fine).  If you say no to gun control you might go to jail.
>
> ------------------------
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Tue, 7/2/13, skreimey at gmail.com <skreimey at gmail.com>* wrote:
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>
> From: skreimey at gmail.com <skreimey at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: OT: Secret spying on your Internet activity?
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
> Date: Tuesday, July 2, 2013, 8:55 AM
>
> Writing my reps didn't accomplish much during TARP. Finding ways to not
> participate in or support policies you oppose in your daily life is
> probably the most effective form of activism.
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "keith smith" <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Ken" <parabellum7 at yahoo.com>, "Main PLUG discussion list" <
> plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
> Subject: OT: Secret spying on your Internet activity?
> Date: Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:01 PM
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> I would vet them first.  You can always call, email, or fax your us rep
> and us senators.
>
> This looks like a Gov site.  If it is I'd stay away.
>
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> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Mon, 7/1/13, Ken <parabellum7 at yahoo.com>* wrote:
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>
> From: Ken <parabellum7 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: OT: Secret spying on your Internet activity?
> To: "plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org" <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
> Date: Monday, July 1, 2013, 1:17 PM
>
> Are these online petitions worth signing? Or is it just a way to get your
> email addy on more spam lists?
>
>
> -K
>
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>   ----- Forwarded Message -----
>  *From:* Change.org <mail at change.org>
> *To:* parabellum7 at yahoo.com
> *Sent:* Monday, July 1, 2013 9:39 AM
> *Subject:* Secret spying on your Internet activity?
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>               *Ken* - There's a new petition taking off on Change.org,
> and we think you might be interested in signing it:
>             <http://email.change.org/wf/click?upn=L4wUyO6b13sjdmUXmXaF3ImVTD6G6GFyhYT-2F9kLEoC-2Bh9CqsdU4ynONTJ6skFJN3qKgIucR6n35B-2BaxwC0Pq2sgPVv3FohPnXvsUCa0EZRDrpfr9ljUq2HUQAQDh8sCgMwSQakv9osVjpZDek7AuphE1KQZRK0xy5A-2BX6mevoff5aP2HMk5Iqj-2FFvHauQSLLoQEtFzQGhRL47PvWc5Kafyql1o480YZIOK5LtBJVFlMy7DXxKWKbVAQdr1RVopTZ_waxN-2FayPhGkz6DM9IZfKtgQuTrpSJsM0Hjbo7D7f9hnMAzY0CJjYky-2FGHGgHLrljIG6EN-2BTwh2f-2BXid6IYhdpgN7eW4Dx9h6RnnmfnTX56iVX-2BZX-2BDEWnffKuFlnpedWY0VTqQSMQwFv2YGBcpa8Zr-2BCHXimETZAk-2Fba6QA9hiIDFIBOoqmEdVzkyxzm77rAK1d55mgNnGl5wmcnUOse6cg8tRt5HYORtCXmGrcme5Ibo9Y5Fd3qeK4dnlARxGb8cjylfAoe55yY259-2BHp5XMQ-3D-3D>      Eric
> Holder: Allow tech companies to publish NSA PRISM data
> <http://email.change.org/wf/click?upn=L4wUyO6b13sjdmUXmXaF3ImVTD6G6GFyhYT-2F9kLEoC-2Bh9CqsdU4ynONTJ6skFJN3qKgIucR6n35B-2BaxwC0Pq2sgPVv3FohPnXvsUCa0EZRDrpfr9ljUq2HUQAQDh8sCgMwSQakv9osVjpZDek7AuphE1KQZRK0xy5A-2BX6mevoff5aP2HMk5Iqj-2FFvHauQSLLoQEtFzQGhRL47PvWc5Kafyql1o480YZIOK5LtBJVFlMy7DXxKWKbVAQdr1RVopTZ_waxN-2FayPhGkz6DM9IZfKtgQuTrpSJsM0Hjbo7D7f9hnMAzY0CJjYky-2FGHGgHLrljIG6EN-2BTwh2f-2BXid6IYhdpgN7eW4Dx9h6RnnmfnTX56iVX-2BZX-2BDEWnffKuFlnpedWjcfC5vJ0AE6hVXGHCs9PenYkAoe5SSKOOoMN9nm7DgPn0AbjkM5mcAMdiD-2BLCutXHqko7es271x-2BHQtg6iecyqMAEoiYQxd4IY6qIPYdc3-2BQ9IvMBGLO71Ba5lHqibzajq9vUp-2BJYa4aKgjkmwPhRw-3D-3D>       By Alec F.   Alameda, California
>  Sign Alec's Petition
> <http://email.change.org/wf/click?upn=L4wUyO6b13sjdmUXmXaF3ImVTD6G6GFyhYT-2F9kLEoC-2Bh9CqsdU4ynONTJ6skFJN3qKgIucR6n35B-2BaxwC0Pq2sgPVv3FohPnXvsUCa0EZRDrpfr9ljUq2HUQAQDh8sCgMwSQakv9osVjpZDek7AuphE1KQZRK0xy5A-2BX6mevoff5aP2HMk5Iqj-2FFvHauQSLLoQEtFzQGhRL47PvWc5Kafyql1o480YZIOK5LtBJVFlMy7DXxKWKbVAQdr1RVopTZ_waxN-2FayPhGkz6DM9IZfKtgQuTrpSJsM0Hjbo7D7f9hnMAzY0CJjYky-2FGHGgHLrljIG6EN-2BTwh2f-2BXid6IYhdpgN7eW4Dx9h6RnnmfnTX56iVX-2BZX-2BDEWnffKuFlnpedW0fP5idSm3t1h0ki0TiThMdTl-2B-2B6NPaTV0JR7i-2Be7bJAoDLJjuy5LZqBomu24-2Bpo-2B6kAZ45HeR4Li-2Fmq8BuOtA2dTMHBZ4ISTstO-2Bg-2FTtGpYGLusaZsjm5OIkbPQz5vBPn1N85FR2Uq0sgcvsed7PJw-3D-3D>
>             After a leak of documents from the National Security Agency
> showed that a secret program called PRISM allows widespread surveillance of
> U.S. citizens' phone and internet activities with some of the world's
> biggest tech corporations, the nation is concerned and confused about our
> privacy rights.
> President Obama and the NSA have stated that widespread spying of
> Americans is not taking place and that the government is only requesting
> certain data from these companies. There is an easy way to show if this is
> true and that companies like Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and Twitter have
> taken the commendable step of requesting that the NSA allow them to publish
> the records of government data requests in their company transparency
> reports.
> In part, Google's letter states:
> *Assertions in the press that our compliance with these requests gives
> the U.S. government unfettered access to our users’ data are simply untrue.
> However, government nondisclosure obligations regarding the number of FISA
> national security requests that Google receives, as well as the number of
> accounts covered by those requests, fuel that speculation.*
> *
> We therefore ask you to help make it possible for Google to publish in our Transparency
> Report<http://email.change.org/wf/click?upn=1mmeex-2FjZn-2FwcNsRwSa6Vb1BAjT-2Fy11qFaLyn60GQxdkFjG0h2LCmON6FueK8875hyVQ3-2F2RksE7Cv2-2B5N91TVNKfrMASCuSq3bk3Ud3YmM-3D_waxN-2FayPhGkz6DM9IZfKtgQuTrpSJsM0Hjbo7D7f9hnMAzY0CJjYky-2FGHGgHLrljIG6EN-2BTwh2f-2BXid6IYhdpgN7eW4Dx9h6RnnmfnTX56iVX-2BZX-2BDEWnffKuFlnpedWSURcmzxAQMRbTmQ-2BPWnDEJ59Ki2zUIhWLGQsI8bvwZYGNwYnRrW2bO9QaAs6G-2B20KY8kzYXXnJDr8y5h-2BStokSxoOXa4RvjWSE0avMHtXIaRHrEhVEzdMxIoG6WmPm3gp8biOvJ63f-2FjG-2Fkf-2BKudew-3D-3D> aggregate
> numbers of national security requests, including FISA disclosures—in terms
> of both the number we receive and their scope. Google’s numbers would
> clearly show that our compliance with these requests falls far short of the
> claims being made. Google has nothing to hide. *
> The government allowed Google to start reporting the number of national
> security letters they received requesting data earlier this year, but
> they are still barred from releasing information about Foreign Intelligence
> Surveillance Act (FISA) orders. The requests for this data often comes in
> the form of secret court orders that not only force these companies to give
> data but also make it impossible for them to discuss even the basic
> details. That should change.
> By allowing these companies to include this information in their
> transparency reports, the government will be giving American citizens at
> least some of the insight we deserve about how our daily activities like
> emails and Google searches are being tracked by the government.
>          Sign Alec's Petition
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