programming

Tue Aug 21 01:49:36 MST 2012

how do you get those free books? or at least those books that are under 5
dollars? They want too much for Head First Programming. (maybe not to much
but more than I can swing)
:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> thankks James. I'll look into getting thay one.
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:11 AM, James Dugger <james.dugger at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> A good book for entry level programing is Head First Programing by
>> O'Reilly books you can get it in pdf form through O'yoReilly.  It is easy
>> to follow and is designed for people with little or no formal training in
>> programing.
>>
>> I gave it to my 13 year old son this summer and got him to use it to
>> learn programing.  He has moved through most of the chapters by himself
>> with little need for help.
>>
>> It teaches the fundamentals of programing OOP using the python language.
>> I like python for several reasons.
>>
>> 1. It is a high level language - no need for compiling to run your
>> programs.
>>
>> 2.  Its syntax is simple and straight forward.
>> 3.  It is used in  both web development as  a server side language and is
>> common in Linux and used in system administration.
>> 4.  It is used by Google in their Google Apps.
>>
>> Good luck
>> On Aug 20, 2012 8:22 AM, "keith smith" <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what being a skilled JavaScript programmer really means,
>>> however there are lots of challenges.  Maybe that is why there is a
>>> "shortage", if there really is one.  Maybe you can achieve everything you
>>> need to with jQuery or another such library.  You will need to know HTML,
>>> how the DOM works, and CSS.  At that point if you learn PHP or some other
>>> server side programming language you would have a complete marketable skill
>>> set.  Of course basic Apache and MySql skills would come in handy also.
>>> None of these skills live in a vacuum.
>>>
>>> Being a JavaScript expert would be pretty neat since JavaScript runs in
>>> the browser.  I'd do some research on demand before jumping in.
>>>
>>> If I were just getting started I'd learn how to program a smart device
>>> running Android.
>>>
>>> http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
>>>
>>> Another thing you might consider.  It is very hard to break into
>>> programming in Corporate America.  Learning how to program smart devises
>>> might help you do freelance work.  That might be where you really find the
>>> demand.
>>>
>>> Another thing.  Having several people give you advice on a tech list is
>>> just that.  The bottom line is you have to make it work.  The buck stops
>>> with you.  I'd do lots of research and try out the different languages
>>> before investing lots of time and effort.  Also develop a business plan.
>>> Even if you plan to work W2, I suggest a business plan so you can see how
>>> that might work.  You are a business even if you work W2.
>>>
>>> The first questions I'd ask myself is :
>>>
>>> 1) what are you deeply passionate about
>>> 2) what were you genetically encoded to do
>>> 3) will, whatever this is, drive you economic engine?
>>>
>>> Having a desire to be a programmer does not mean one should become a
>>> programmer.  You may have been designed to do something else.  Also
>>> programming skills come in handy in other fields.  For instance if you were
>>> in a financial analyst position you might be more productive if you were
>>> able to pull raw data from a database, and create reports, maybe in spread
>>> sheet format, that you and your group might be able to use in the
>>> performance of your duties.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>> Keith Smith
>>>
>>> --- On *Sun, 8/19/12, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: programming
>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>>> Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 10:51 PM
>>>
>>> Well, I am going to take Alan and Joseph;s suggestion and learn
>>> JavaScript. Look at that! Codeacademy didn't give me a choice as to which
>>> language I wanted to learn but rather started me right off with JS! Thank
>>> you so much for responding to me guys.
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>> Keith Smith d Joseph;
>>> --- On *Sun, 8/19/12, Alan Dayley <adayley at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=adayley@gmail.com>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Alan Dayley <adayley at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=adayley@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: programming
>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us<http://mc/compose?to=plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>>> >
>>> Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 3:30 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> Most places I visit use web-based applications more and more often. And,
>>> in such places, JavaScript developers seem to be in short supply.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=bmike1@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> thank you so much for your help. What would you suggest as a marketable
>>> language for me to learn?
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Alan Dayley <adayley at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=adayley@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> http://codeacademy.com has free classes for much of the basics in
>>> several languages. They just added Python. Look to see if that fits
>>> your learning goals.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=bmike1@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I was wondering..... how do you find the free kindle books and I was
>>> hoping to find a book that would teach programming from the ground up with
>>> exercises and stuff like that. Free is about all I can afford with two kids
>>> and being on disability and all the crap that is going on in my life! WHat
>>> is a good language to start learning? I remember that a friend of mine who
>>> went to Devry in 91 the first language he learned was Pascal. Is that a
>>> good language to start with or should I rather start with something more
>>> useful? Like maybe Java or Javascript or would you recommend something
>>> else? This is going to be completely a home study thing. I do have a Python
>>> book for python2.1  by Deitel, Liperi, and Weidermann (copywrite 02). I
>>> think  I will work out of that unless you think it is too old. Please don't
>>> ask what I want to do with whatever I learn because right now I don't know
>>> what the possibilities of learning a language (be it Python, DHTML, or
>>> whatever). You know what, I also
>>>   have a DHTML book (<c>1997) anda java book (<c> 96) that are really
>>> old. Do you think I should use them? Yeah, I'm thinking HTML and Java are
>>> more practical. I can offer to program things for people. What do you think
>>> I should do?
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