SATA Drives in Hardware RAID?

Stephen cryptworks at gmail.com
Tue Sep 27 09:28:52 MST 2011


I have 4x160GB WD Desktop Drive running very well on a 3ware 9550SX
controller have been in that configuration for a few years now.

Im actually trying to sell the server they are in (with the drives included)

but it still has been working great.

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com> wrote:
> These are the current limitations with non-enterprise drives in hardware
> RAID (especially with WD drives):
>
> a) Time Limited Error Recovery:
>
> TLER is not enabled in all WD drives manufactured after 2010 (unless you pay
> for "RAID Enabled" Enterprise level), so RAID out of the box is
> problematic.  As a non-TLER HDD fills up with data, the error detection
> firmware might take too long, and the RAID controller may drop that HDD from
> a RAID array.  This timeout is typically around 10 seconds with Dell
> integrated driver/host RAID solution.
>
> Of course with WD drives we used to be able to get a utility (downloadable
> from Western Digital site) to enable TLER so it works for hardware RAID.
>
> WDTLER.EXE utility (originally developed by Western Digital, but
> discontinued, yet still downloadable from some 3rd party sites) used to
> allow for the enabling or disabling of the TLER parameter in the hard disk's
> firmware settings allowing the user to determine the best setting for his
> particular usage as either a stand-alone or RAID drive. This utility is
> written for DOS and a DOS bootable disk is required with this utility to use
> it.
>
> Western Digital now claims that using the WDTLER.EXE tool on newer drives
> can damage the firmware and make the disk unusable. The WDTLER.EXE tool is
> no longer available from Western Digital, and new disks will not be able to
> have the TLER setting changed.
>
> Most WD "Desktop class" disks cannot have the LTER setting changed as newer
> drives; therefore will not provide stable RAID in Perc LSI drives.
>
> b) SATA Desktop Drives are not Enterprise Drives:
>
> For example, Western Digital enterprise drives such as Raptor, Caviar RE2
> and RE2-GP (RAID Edition) come with TLER Read "Enabled" (7 seconds) and TLER
> Write "Disabled" (0 seconds) while desktop drives such as Caviar SE, SE16,
> and GP come with TLER Read and Write Disabled (0 seconds).  Dell refers to
> their Enterprise Drives as Tier1 and Tier2.
>
> So, we know the risks, RAID failure, short lifetime, inability to rebuild
> the RAID due to TLER off.
>
> Is anyone successfully using basic (Desktop class, aka cheap) SATA drives
> with hardware controller cards?
>
> --
> (503) 754-4452  AT&T
> (602) 791-8002  Android
> (623) 239-3392  Skype
> (623) 688-3392  Google Voice
> **
> HomeSmartUniversity.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>



-- 
A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.

Stephen


More information about the PLUG-discuss mailing list