ide-eide

Michael Havens bmike1 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 20 00:15:49 MST 2011


I gave up on the external hd aspirations because my mobo probably won't
boot a USB. You say that older mobos have problems recognizing larger
disks.... 160 gb is probably one of those. Could I partition it maybe and
it would see more of it... is there a work around?

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Jim March <1.jim.march at gmail.com> wrote:

> Let me add some hard disk advice, regardless of whether you do IDE/PATA or
> SATA.
>
> Laptop-class drives (2.5") are smaller and slower than a desktop-class
> drive (3.5").  BUT the laptop drives are much tougher, esp. in terms of
> drop-resistance, and put out a lot less heat.
>
> You'll pay more for the gigabyte for a laptop-class drive.
>
> If you're using a laptop IDE drive in a desktop computer, you need an
> adapter to make it work.  Costs $5 at Fry's Electronics.  On SATA drives
> the connectors are the same for laptop or desktop.
>
> If you have a motherboard without SATA support, a SATA PCI adapter card is
> very cheap - about $20 tops (Fry's has tons).  It can be a much, much
> better idea to buy a SATA drive plus PCI adapter now as opposed to an IDE
> drive for an older motherboard.  By jumping to SATA right away you gain the
> ability to upgrade to a hotter SATA-support motherboard later.  And
> usually, the SATA PCI adapter card will let you run a big SATA drive on a
> motherboard that doesn't otherwise support big IDE/PATA drives, because the
> SATA PCI adapter takes over a lot of the hard disk support firmware from
> the motherboard.
>
> The best hard disks today are made by Western Digital, in my opinion.  A
> very close second is Seagate.  Comparatively speaking, the Japanese such as
> Hitachi, Toshiba and Fujitsu suck.  In terms of reliability Samsungs from
> Korea are actually better than the Japanese drives.  Maxtor is Seagate's
> "budget line" - avoid.
>
> If you're buying an external drive that is NOT made by one of the above
> drive-makers (LaCie, Buffalo, SimpleTech, many MANY more) then you're
> buying a pig in a poke.  You have no idea what brand of actual drive is in
> there unless you either crack the case open (breaking the warrantee most
> likely) or you use software tools to probe the make/model info.  If however
> you buy a Western Digital external drive fr'instance, you can take it to
> the bank that there's a WD drive in there.  Same concept for all the rest,
> except that Seagate owns Maxtor and might slap a Maxtor drive under a
> Seagate-brand chassis.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:18 PM, JD Austin <jd at twingeckos.com> wrote:
>
>> IDE, EIDE, and PATA (Parallel ATA) have the same interface.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA
>>
>> Older motherboards may have trouble recognizing larger drives.
>> IDE/EIDE/PATA is on it's way out.... get SATA if you have a choice since
>> it's unlikely you'll find a motherboard with EIDE on it.
>> Open Box= someone else didn't like it.
>> I'd go SATA if I were you (supports native hot swapping).
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA
>> I often use laptop drives for such things.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 18:48, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> this is the ad:
>>>
>>> http://www.macconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=8239542&cm_mmc=Base-_-8239542-_-Used-_-WN3&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8239542
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a sales guy telling me at http://www.macconnection.com/ that an
>>>> eide drive (theirs) will work on an IDE system. Is this true. As stated
>>>> before I don't know if my system is ide or eide. I have an IBM NetVista
>>>> computer. This is what they're trying to sell:
>>>> Open Box Western Digital 160GB Caviar SE EIDE 3.5" Hard Drive - 8MB
>>>> Cache
>>>>
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