Puppet, Chef or CFEngine?

[Lisa Kachold]

Thanks to all who responded.
I believe this is an excellent subject for a blog after about 10,000 lab
testing package comparison hours!
Laugh!

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Bryan O'Neal <
Bryan.ONeal at theonealandassociates.com> wrote:

> Personal opinion - for large scale use with many people maintaining
> different sections puppet is one of the best - however it is really
> only good for file management. Since nearly everything on a linux
> system is a file, this should not be a problem. As for user management
> - I am still under the opinion on that (unless you are a pure Linux
> environment) this should be solved by using Active Directory for
> authentication and pam for access mismanagement. (if you don't want to
> integrate your services with pam they probably have a simple
> configuration file that controls access management that could be
> handled by puppet just as easily)
> Chef is more extensible with access to a full ruby stack - however
> unless you have a very small group of well coordinated developers who
> insist on adhering to standards you will rapidly find your
> provisioning code will become unwieldy and almost useless as you
> inheritances start overriding key portions without notice as to why or
> what section did what. In the rite hands the flexibly is an asset that
> may help solve key problems. In the wrong hands it will propagate
> problems whose effect compound over time until the entire system is
> scraped.
>
> Disclaimer - I know very little regarding this compared to others. I
> use puppet, write manifests, build systems, etc. I am not responsible
> for the engineering.
>
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Ed <plug at 0x1b.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 4:59 PM, James Mcphee <jmcphe at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I am also looking at implementing one of these at some point in the near
> >> future.  The standard scripts over ssh is simple and relatively well
> >> controlled, but teaching new people how to use them and maintaining
> them in
> >> a sane fashion is troublesome.  I've used a few HP, Dell, Sun, and IBM
> >> config products in the past and they were all bad enough I went back to
> >> scripts in no time.
> >>
> >> On Nov 5, 2011 11:33 AM, "Lisa Kachold" <lisakachold at obnosis.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone chime in on using enterprise mass systems configuration and
> >>> management tools?
> >>>
> >>> What are you using? Chef, Puppet or CFEngine and why?
> >>>
> >
> > I like CFengine - the task based focus is on "promises" and the
> > install is painless. The only ruff spot I could point to is with
> > application updates - the interface to yum is less polished than some
> > - updates work if you work on them as groups vs particular apps. There
> > are many promises online and in the maillists for particular tasks. I
> > think there is even a starter pack on github somewhere. CFengine fits
> > well into ITIL and managing IT - lots of IT - and it has it's own
> > directory in /var too!  ;)
> >
> > The RH world has worked with Cobbler plus Puppet - this is getting
> > tighter with Puppet plus TheForman and Pulp - if I remember the
> > roadmap.
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