networking ubuntu and mint and windows
Michael Havens
bmike1 at gmail.com
Fri Dec 2 23:36:17 MST 2011
Thanks, buddy!
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Kevin Fries <kevin at fries-biro.com> wrote:
> If you were not confused enough, there is also sshfs, where you can
> mount a file system, like nfs, but use sftp protocol instead. This also
> does not open up a second port, but uses your port 22 instead.
>
> Aren't you glad you asked ;-)
>
> Kevin
>
> On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 15:36 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
> > >"Personally, I am not a fan of NFS. If I want files on another
> > machine,I
> > > open Nautulus (desktop file browser in Ubuntu), and type:>
> >
> > > ssh://myothermachine
> >
> > >I now have a windows that I can drag and drop files to and from. And
> > if
> > >I want to run something on that machine, I will use Free-NX. And it
> > can
> > >use the same SSH tunnel to do both.
> >
> > This is what I had in mind when I started this venture; but I think it
> > would be good to learn both NFS and Free-NX.
> >
> > So I restarted the service, (it was nfs-kernel-service if you care).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Kevin Fries <kevin at fries-biro.com>
> > wrote:
> > NFS is file sharing, like mounting a server directory in
> > Windows. In
> > the Windows platform, there are two programs that are
> > installed as part
> > of the standard Windows: Server, and Workstation.
> >
> > Server is what creates shares on your system that others can
> > see through
> > network neighborhood (or whatever MS is calling it this week,
> > Network
> > Places?)
> >
> > Workstation is the software that makes the link and makes it
> > available
> > to the current machine.
> >
> > Linux can install SMB to connect, or share its folders using
> > the Windows
> > protocol, called CIFS (old references will still call it SMB,
> > which is
> > its predecessor)
> >
> > Linux also has support for the old Unix equivalent, NFS, or
> > Network File
> > System. In NFS, the Server portion is handled by a daemon,
> > and you
> > create your shares though the /etc/exports file. The client
> > side is
> > handled via the standard mount command. But it is just a
> > second
> > protocol to handle the same task.
> >
> > Windows systems can also mount NFS drives, but you have to
> > find, and
> > install, the software separately. Mac's btw act exactly like
> > Linux
> > machine's in this case, and therefore can mount NFS natively,
> > or you can
> > in stall the Samba to talk CIFS.
> >
> > What I thought you were talking about earlier was remote
> > desktop access.
> > This is a completely different topic.
> >
> > Remote desktop means that you will see machine-a's desktop on
> > machine-b's screen. This allows you to run a program on
> > machine-a while
> > being currently logged into machine-b. For that, I
> > recommended Free-NX.
> >
> > Again, you have the Windows technology, and the one everyone
> > else uses.
> >
> > Windows natively has a program called Terminal Services. You
> > can
> > connect as a client to a server at any time. Every version
> > since XP has
> > had this software installed, but you are limited to 1-2
> > connections
> > depending on your version of Windows. Ubuntu has a client for
> > Terminal
> > Server also.
> >
> > Linux and Mac machines generally use a program called VNC for
> > remote
> > desktop. It is included with every version I have ever seen
> > of Linux
> > (or is in the repositories). VNC has no security in it by
> > default, so
> > many tools have been built to secure the connection. The
> > simplest is
> > generally to tunnel it though a SSH connection.
> >
> > When I recommended Free-NX for remote desktop, It was due to
> > the fact
> > that you are obviously new to all of this, and wanted to point
> > you to
> > the easiest way to install the software. Free-NX will require
> > you to
> > have SSH setup between the machines (easy enough), and it will
> > tunnel
> > between the machine a VNC session. It hides all of this tough
> > a very
> > straightforward GUI, so it is fairly easy for a nubie.
> >
> > But Free-NX will not share files, it only let you see the
> > desktop on the
> > other side.
> >
> > NFS will not let you see the other side, or run programs on
> > the remote
> > machine, it will only share files.
> >
> > Personally, I am not a fan of NFS. If I want files on another
> > machine,
> > I open Nautulus (desktop file browser in Ubuntu), and type:
> >
> > ssh://myothermachine
> >
> > I now have a windows that I can drag and drop files to and
> > from. And if
> > I want to run something on that machine, I will use Free-NX.
> > And it can
> > use the same SSH tunnel to do both.
> >
> > Good Luck
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 14:35 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
> > > I am confused..... what exactly does NFS do? Maybe we should
> > do both!
> > > Below is the /etc/exports file i created for the computer I
> > decided to
> > > make the server
> > >
> > > # /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems
> > which may
> > > be exported
> > > / 192.168.0.0(ro) 192.168.0.1(ro)
> > 192.168.0.4(rw,sync)
> > > /home 192.168.0.2(ro,sync)
> > >
> > > (computers)
> > >
> > > (192.168.0.0) I don't know where this device is. I
> > figure it has
> > > to do with the router.
> > > (192.168.0.1) Is the address to the router
> > > (192.168.0.2) is the address to the windows box
> > > (192.168.0.3) is the address to the designated server
> > > (192.168.0.4) Is the address to the laptop wifi
> > >
> > > This is /etc/hosts.deny:
> > >
> > > portmap : all
> > > lockd : all
> > > mountd : all
> > > rquotad : all
> > > statd : all
> > >
> > > this is /etc/allow:
> > >
> > > portmap 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4
> > > lockd : 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4
> > > mountd : 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4
> > > rquotad : 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4
> > > statd : 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4
> > >
> > > this being completed the next step in my guide tells me that
> > these
> > > daemons need to be started:
> > > rpc.portmap
> > > rpc.mountd,
> > > rpc.nfsd
> > > rpc.statd,
> > > rpc.lockd (if necessary), and
> > > rpc.rquotad
> > >
> > > google says that startup scrips are in /etc/init.d but in
> > that directory the only rpc is rpcbind-boot which is a link
> > to /lib/init/upstart-job
> > > which is a script... one of the lines in it says:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > # Symlink target for initscripts that have been
> > converted to Upstart.
> > >
> > > I'm a little lost! How do I get these scripts and add them
> > to init.d or where should I put them?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Kevin Fries
> > <kevin at fries-biro.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > Sorry I was slow to jump in on this one...
> > >
> > > NX rocks. I disagree that it is a pain to set up.
> > It uses
> > > VNC and SSH
> > > to remote the desktop. Ubuntu .deb packages exist
> > on their
> > > site, so
> > > install is pretty simple. And, it is as secure as
> > anything
> > > short of
> > > full scale enterprise class application.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:53 -0700, Michael Havens
> > wrote:
> > > > which way do you think is best for the learning
> > experience?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Stephen
> > > <cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > you can use rlogin via ssh, and then xming
> > and putty
> > > to do the
> > > > same
> > > > from windows to Linux boxes.
> > > >
> > > > these will maintain the most open options.
> > I have
> > > use the
> > > > xming/putty
> > > > combination and its pretty nice. and as
> > secure as
> > > your ssh
> > > > session :-)
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Matt
> > Graham
> > > > <danceswithcrows at usa.net> wrote:
> > > > > From: Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>
> > > > >> No MAC. Two Linux boxes and 1 Windows
> > XP box. Is
> > > there a
> > > > way to
> > > > >> make it so that I can have the desktop
> > of the
> > > other
> > > > computer on
> > > > >> another or else is this all text?
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > >
> > > > > That's a bit of a different question,
> > and has
> > > nothing to do
> > > > with NFS. This is
> > > > > more like "remote access". There are a
> > bunch of
> > > ways; here
> > > > are the most
> > > > > popular:
> > > > >
> > > > > VNC/TightVNC : Totally cross-platform,
> > tested,
> > > stable,
> > > > etcetera. On 'Doze,
> > > > > TightVNC Server will, if run, make the
> > 'Doze
> > > desktop
> > > > available to clients. On
> > > > > Linux, you want x11vncserver or its
> > > GUIfied/friendly
> > > > counterparts KDE Desktop
> > > > > Sharing or the GNOME equivalent
> > (vino?). Many
> > > clients
> > > > exist. Pick your
> > > > > favorite; they usually have "vnc" in
> > their name
> > > somewhere.
> > > > NOTE: vncserver
> > > > > and tightvncserver create a virtual
> > Display
> > > instead of
> > > > sharing an
> > > > > already-existing Display.
> > > > >
> > > > > Windows Desktop Sharing : A 'Doze box
> > can share
> > > its desktop
> > > > to remote clients.
> > > > > There's a Linux client called rdesktop
> > that works
> > > pretty
> > > > well. Last I
> > > > > checked, there was a proof-of-concept
> > Linux server
> > > that
> > > > didn't work all that
> > > > > well, so this is pretty much one-way
> > only.
> > > > >
> > > > > NXServer : Proprietary free as in beer,
> > but quite
> > > fast over
> > > > low-bandwidth
> > > > > links. It's a bit of a pain to set up.
> > It works
> > > well once
> > > > it's been set up.
> > > > >
> > > > > X11 : Can be used, usually isn't, since
> > most
> > > modern X
> > > > servers are started with
> > > > > -nolisten tcp , and GTK+ apps tend to
> > behave badly
> > > when not
> > > > able to connect to
> > > > > a local X socket.
> > > > >
> > > > > sshing to a Linux box is usually much
> > faster than
> > > dragging a
> > > > GUI around. But
> > > > > there are ways if you really need them.
> > Don't
> > > forget that
> > > > you can "ssh -Y
> > > > > remotehost xclient" to ssh to
> > remotehost, then
> > > tunnel X over
> > > > ssh, so that
> > > > > xclient is running on remotehost, but
> > displaying
> > > on your
> > > > local Display, which
> > > > > may be useful in some cases.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Matt G / Dances With Crows
> > > > > The Crow202 Blog:
> > http://crow202.org/wordpress/
> > > > > There is no Darkness in Eternity/But
> > only Light
> > > too dim for
> > > > us to see
> > > > >
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