PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 56, Issue 13
Sherman Rogers, Jr
shermanrogers at hotmail.com
Sat Feb 13 14:40:06 MST 2010
Is their an install fest going on??? This is the first I've heard of it.. I'm always interested in helping out.
Please call me if you need more help in the future
Thanx
Sherman
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> 1. Re: PXE vs PXE (Matt Graham)
> 2. Re: Why does 'ssh' and 'scp' work to one and not another?
> SOLVED (Lisa Kachold)
> 3. Re: Need some help for a special Installfest (Dazed_75)
>From: Dazed_75 <lthielster at gmail.com>
>[loopback mounting of ISOs]
>> And since there could be many such .iso's to mount are there any
>> limits on the number of mounts, or mounted files, or .... One might
>> need to mount on demand to reduce some resource usage. There is so
>> much to learn I could almost wish I was 20 again. --- Nah, bad idea!
>
>Usually, there are 8 loop devices. If you need more, you can manually
>mknod them and use more, up to... 4096? Something like that.
>/dev/loop0 is block, major 7, minor 0, and the others follow the same
>pattern. Or if you "modprobe loop max_loop=N", then you can have an
>upper limit of N loop devices. Usually, people don't need more than
>a couple of loop devices at once. If you need more, it's relatively
>easy to get them running.
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>Glad we got down to the exact details of the issue.
>
>Joe, that's the process, much as it seems impersonal, and while you
>thought your problem was SSH, which was what you were trying to do, it
>actually was a bad password, which WAS the error message you got!
>
>Linux is just like a good domestic or business partner, she will tell
>you very clearly exactly what is wrong with her!
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>
>On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:16 AM, <joe at actionline.com> wrote:
>> .
>>>> I have tried changing the passwords, but the system will
>>>> not allow me to do so.
>>> ----
>>> because 'user' has to satisfy 'rules' for passwords but root does not.
>>>
>>> if you...
>>>
>>> sudo 'su -'
>>>
>>> and then type
>>>
>>> passwd joe
>>>
>>> you can enter anything you want for a password and not have to satisfy
>>> rules.
>>
>> That has apparently solved the problem.
>> I'll do further checking to be sure and will report back.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
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>Yes, Mike I did and they are not available at this point. But they have
>been extremely helpful in various ways so I was not expecting them for this.
>
>On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Mike Schwartz <mike.l.schwartz at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Has anyone heard back from those Ubuntu AriZona Loco folks?
>> I sent them a copy of [a reply to] an early part of this thread
>> (see:
>> http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/lurker/message/20100208.191150.1e2ad3bf.en.html
>> )
>>
>> They might be able to help, -- EVEN if, it is (maybe)
>> in some capacity "other than" showing up in person.
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>> Glendale AZ
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>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Dazed_75 <lthielster at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Stephen, I really need you. Please come for as long as you are able.
>>>
>>> Eric, I will have a CD for everyone who wants one though most will never
>>> use it again.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Eric Shubert <ejs at shubes.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds good to me. Hopefully we can wrap half or better of the installs
>>>> with enough time left to do the ad hoc "getting started" presentation.
>>>> That could be challenging, but we might pull it off if we keep the
>>>> objective in mind.
>>>>
>>>> You'll have a disk for each participant, right?
>>>>
>>>> Dazed_75 wrote:
>>>> > I like it too. Though I wish we had thought of this earlier in the
>>>> > week. I had intended to make a form tomorrow afternoon which was part
>>>> > data collection from the applicants to provide us with some information
>>>> > and part as a checklist for the volunteers for the actual install. I
>>>> > will put some thought into amending it as you guys suggested.
>>>> >
>>>> > With less than 36 hours before we start, I can't see preparing a
>>>> > presentation / class but I can see making some notes to drive an ad hoc
>>>> > one. I also don't know what our constraints might be without talking
>>>> to
>>>> > Yvvone who asked us to do this. I am sure she is open to suggestion
>>>> but
>>>> > we are still limited by room schedules and how many people are willing
>>>> > to hang around for a class/demo at the end of the session.
>>>> >
>>>> > Here is my proposal for this one:
>>>> >
>>>> > * give people (applicants) a handout and a form when they come in
>>>> > * applicants need to set up their system, read the handout and fill
>>>> > out what they can of the form
>>>> > * While they are doing that, we circulate among the folks and help
>>>> > them. Perhaps one of us might give an intro and answer questions
>>>> > while the others circulate, but since people will probably not
>>>> all
>>>> > be there for the start that might not work well.
>>>> > * We start doing the installs when we have adequate information for
>>>> > each one and answer user questions as we go and move on when
>>>> > neither the system nor the applicant needs us. We leave the form
>>>> > with the system to help the same or another volunteer pick up the
>>>> > install when needed. (I am not confident about this part).
>>>> > * IF there is time and IF people are willing to stay, one of us can
>>>> > do an ad hoc class/lab about getting started. Alternatively we
>>>> > could offer to hold a separate class specifically for that
>>>> purpose
>>>> > on some other day. I could do that one. Yvvone will have to
>>>> > schedule it.
>>>> >
>>>> > I would not be comfortable trying to talk the group through doing their
>>>> > own installs because I know from the interviews we did at the Mesa
>>>> Regal
>>>> > Expo that some installs will be problematical and many of the
>>>> applicants
>>>> > would not be willing to attempt it.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Eric Shubert <ejs at shubes.net
>>>> > <mailto:ejs at shubes.net>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I like this idea. A better learning environment.
>>>> >
>>>> > Stephen wrote:
>>>> > > This i think might be a good idea... create a small form for
>>>> them to
>>>> > > fill out for username computer name all the non-secure stuff, so
>>>> we
>>>> > > can give them an idea of what they might want to think about and
>>>> then
>>>> > > with them all up and running make it a class/install-fest even
>>>> with
>>>> > > them installing it themselves and having 3-5 people moving about
>>>> > > helping with issues. and in the future this will let them
>>>> > reinstall or
>>>> > > pass on to others.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > even set up the form to record information they might need in
>>>> the
>>>> > future...
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Eric Shubert <ejs at shubes.net
>>>> > <mailto:ejs at shubes.net>> wrote:
>>>> > >> Should we try to do a little presentation after the installs
>>>> are
>>>> > >> (mostly) done that people can follow along on their new
>>>> systems?
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Dazed_75 wrote:
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