Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX?

[Dazed_75]

They could also raise and finance an army to invade your home directly.  I'm
not worried about that either and this thread is now going on auto-delete.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:41 AM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:

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>
> --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Frank <francis.earl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Frank <francis.earl at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX?
> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 1:01 AM
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:29 PM,
> > Alan Dayley <alandd at consultpros.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Frank
> > <francis.earl at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It really isn't any
> > different to ISP's knowledge of our online activities
> >
> > > now... I think its actually better since Google is
> > fully upfront about their
> >
> > > access to our online activities!
> >
> > > Privacy is important, but on the internet, we've
> > never had it... I don't
> >
> > > really understand the uproar directed at Google, if
> > anything, its better
> >
> > > that so much is stored in one place... the more there
> > is, the harder it is
> >
> > > to track unless they have good reason. If you're
> > doing nothing illegal on
> >
> > > the internet, I don't see why people worry?
> >
> >
> >
> > If it were financially feasible to do so, it sounds
> > like you would
> >
> > have no problem with a having a police officer follow you
> > and watch
> >
> > you 24/7.  After all, you would not do anything illegal,
> > right?
> >
> > We already have cameras on us almost anywhere we
> > go, FBI also can tap your phone for a wide variety of
> > reasons. Your television habits are tracked too, else how do
> > they get ratings? I don't see people stopping their use
> > of phones and TV, or not going on freeways or to public
> > places due to privacy? Internet privacy is very similar in
> > many ways to both of these, unless we're doing something
> > wrong, we know they're not singling us out.
> >
> > Your statement even points this out, it simply
> > isn't feasible to track and monitor everything each
> > person does online, there is simply too much data! With it
> > all going to one source, it makes this even less feasible.
> > AdSense and friends use your data in certain algorithms, but
> > there isn't an actual person taking time out of their
> > day to see what news articles you read today or what you
> > downloaded yesterday.
> >
> > I understand most people are much more private
> > than me, but I personally worry more about things like
> > censorship compared to privacy... I simply don't have
> > much to hide.
> > -------------------------------
>
> Censorship, loss of privacy, same side of the coin.  My original point was
> that Google is the biggest search engine.  It has been reported that they
> know all our Internet habits.  If they get into connectivity and they get a
> large market share they can selectively censor you.  If you are for gay
> rights and they are not they can simply add a few points to your ranking to
> move you to page 3, 4, 5.... instead of a natural page 1 ranking.  They can
> impact elections.  They can hide things that we need to know about while
> highlighting things that are not of importance.  They would have the power
> to put you out of business if you rely on the Internet for your leads. This
> becomes more of an issue with newspapers going bankrupt, and the Yellow Book
> going out of style, while people are turning more to the Internet for their
> information.
>
> I'm not saying this is happening, however the potential is there.
>
> Our founding Fathers gave us the Bill-of-Rights for a reason.  They lived
> through oppression and did not want it to happen in the "Several States"
> that is now the USA.
>
>
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