OT, ACTA, Secrecy and free software

[Eric Cope]

regulation of information? as long as you are the one to regulate it, right?

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>wrote:

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> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Technomage <technomage.hawke at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> Lisa,
>> My response was originally to Ryan regarding his initial response per my
>> posting.
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>> However, I can take your word for it that the FOIA response since sept
>> 2001 has been less than stellar.
>> Still, on an issue that affects even "free and open software" for
>> governments to take something thats supposed to
>> be publically debated and accessible and make it "a metter of national
>> security" makes me wonder what they
>> are really up to.
>>
>> Clearly, the current administration is showing an aptitude for these
>> kinds of secrecy games not seen since the
>> height of the cold war. There is something very wrong in the halls of
>> power and it directly affects us all
>> in one form or another.
>>
>
> ....but it is a matter of layers of required security.  Since you can't
> understand it, (just like with technical troubleshooting) obviously you
> either have an incorrect premise, or less than sufficient information about
> the threats.
>
> In psychology, black and white (good bad) and ideological defenses (putting
> things not understood into political categories), are things people do when
> they are being defensive or failing to understand all the issues.
>
> Do you seriously think that so many people, including Obama, Clinton, all
> the presidents since Roosevelt, who, once briefed on current information,
> would so radically change their stance, if it was not completely necessary?
>
>
> Have you ever been a hostage, terror, or violent situation?  Have you ever
> been attacked aggressively?  Have you ever been under siege while working as
> an IT professional, from packet traffic originating elsewhere in the world?
> Have you had the opportunity to interact with German hackers and understand
> their mentality toward the USA?
>
> Well, I have, and I have to consider that the threat warrants a change in
> mentality (like the cold war - which never ended only continued in many
> ways).
>
> Do you realize that your name was entered in databases related to "possible
> sedition" since the 1980s related to the six degrees of separation from the
> people you interact with in the patriot movement in the USA?   Do you
> realize that the Chinese have sent lead laced toys to the USA on more than
> one ocassion that was not immediately caught?  Do you realize that since
> 1985, you could buy pirated Micro$soft software from Tiwan that included
> bios virus?
>
> Clearly the cold war is upon us.
>
> I advocate regulation of information use, not "freedom" because, just like
> anarchy, it does not work as either an economic system or a political one.
>
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>> Lisa Kachold wrote:
>> > Right, I believe I got the typical response sometime after 2001.  I have
>> the
>> > form letter, if you would like to have me scan it in.
>> >
>> > After many years working in IT for the U.S. Army, Veterans
>> Administration,
>> > U.S.Bank/KeyBank, Telecoms, Nike, ISP's and many ECommerce firms and
>> > start-ups, I don't disagree with the process of keeping information
>> private,
>> > just the vague wording of the letter, but that subject is not exactly
>> > on-topic.
>> >
>> > A long political discussion need not begin:
>> >
>> > #end
>> >
>> >
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