Linux certification

[Lisa Kachold]

Sean!

Hope to see you at one of our HackFest Security Presentations soon at John
C. Lincoln Hospital.

Nice to have you in the PLUG. I am sure we can call on your experience as
well.

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Sean Parsons <sean at theparsonsfamily.com>wrote:

> Josh,
>        I'm already employed as the IT Manager for a local company. We have
> MS systems to date and my desire to expand into Linux will eventually carry
> this company with me. My background is Telecommunications but I always find
> myself back in IT somehow, but anyway the burden for this training is due
> to
> my own ambition not the company's. I just thought that taking the classes
> would help me get up to speed faster.
>
> Thanks
>
> Sean Parsons
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Joshua
> Zeidner
> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:05 PM
> To: dorian.monroe at cox.net; Main PLUG discussion list
> Subject: Re: Linux certification
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Dorian Monroe <dorian.monroe at cox.net>
> wrote:
> > "Step away from thar server!  I'm CERTIFIED!!"
> >
> > So what does this book say in a few sentences?  I can't make it to the
> lib
> today/tomorrow and don't wanna be kept hangin'.  Thanks!!
>
>   It just goes into vetting and relationship management techniques
> for knowledge workers of all kinds.  In my view, these techniques are
> going to attract useless employees, but if these are their standards,
> then your work is cut out for you.  One thing I notice lately is the
> premium HR managers put on workers fresh out of college.  The
> perception is that someone fresh out of school is more likely to learn
> the domain specific skills (read: unmarketable) and generally grow
> roots with the company.  Once the roots are grown, then we can max out
> the code bumper crop!
>
>   Most non-software specific companies have ZERO clue about hiring
> people.  The general practices certainly changed somewhere between 99
> and 03.  There are 'best practices' now, and the key is learning what
> those are.  The standards are far from obscure, ASMOF you can read
> about them for free at phx PL.
>
>   have fun, and learning is half the battle.  -jmz
>
>
> >
> > Sent from my blackberry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:40:39
> > To: Main PLUG discussion list<plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Subject: Re: Linux certification
> >
> >  I highly recommend reading this book for a look inside how people
> > decide to hire you:
> >
> >
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Hiring-Knowledge-Workers-Techies-Nerds/dp/0932633595
> >
> >  you can get it at Burton Barr library in central PHX.
> >
> >  -jmz
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Sean Parsons <sean at theparsonsfamily.com>
> wrote:
> >> Jason - Thank you for your response.
> >>
> >>        I have spent the last 4-5 months doing the self paced learning,
> checking out every book I can get but it still falls short of complete as
> it's one way learning and I can learn faster 2-way, asking
> questions-getting
> answers. I have the LPI books on library loan to see if I could pass the
> test, but seriously I know enough to break a server/workstation better than
> a newbie.. :)
> >>
> >>        I want to learn more and need to find a place to get that 2-way
> communication so I can get passed this learning curve. I want to replace
> 75%
> of my windows servers in the next 12 months, but want to be more confident
> in my abilities first.
> >>
> >>        Can you recommend a source for linux+, I have centered on Ubuntu
> for now as Mandriva and Debian offered me too many challenges, but may be
> fine after I get up to speed better. So I don't think the distro is a
> factor.... yet.
> >>
> >>        I would love to be the guy to figure out how to play my MS games
> in Linux, as it is now my only reason to keep Windows around in a virtual
> desktop..... Eventually I'd like to use the disks for target practice.. :}
> >>
> >>        Thanks again for your time.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sean Parsons
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Jason
> Spatafore
> >> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:59 PM
> >> To: Main PLUG discussion list
> >> Subject: Re: Linux certification
> >>
> >> Honestly, get Linux+ and play with Linux day in and day out. If you can
> >> learn one command, and 3 of that command's most useful options, every
> >> week, you will start to move forward fast. It's kind of like collecting
> >> weapons in a video game...the more you have, the more versatile you can
> >> be. (After 3 years, you'll know 150+ commands...and those 150 commands
> >> is a HUGE arsenal of weaponry that can make you extremely versatile.)
> >>
> >> Do not think you can "certify yourself into the industry". Linux is
> >> beyond an organized structure of system administration....it's a thought
> >> process. You approach the problem with "what do I need to do?" then "is
> >> there a command that already does it?"
> >>
> >> Linux has a community that creates, explores, challenges, and expands.
> >> If you are going to be a part in that community, you must definitely
> >> explore...a LOT.
> >>
> >> That's my advice to anybody who may want to get into Linux. Understand
> >> that gaming will be your largest challenge...but you could become one of
> >> the people who will change that drawback.
> >>
> >> All I have is Linux+...there's also LPI. I, myself, refuse to get a
> >> distribution specific certification. I want to learn Linux...not one
> >> company's translation on how it should be. Of course, you could be
> >> different. If so, Red Hat and Novell (SuSE) have certification tracks as
> >> well, and they're not for the lighthearted. They're pretty tough, but
> >> very focused on *their* distributions.
> >>
> >> Remember, a Linux technician is beyond a guy who replaces a piece of
> >> hardware or a system administrator who manages systems. A person who is
> >> known in the Linux community is a combination of hardware technician,
> >> programmer, and engineer...with a very good understanding of how all the
> >> pieces mix and match.
> >>
> >> On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 08:55 -0700, Sean Parsons wrote:
> >>> Hello all –
> >>>
> >>> I’m new to the group, but have been working in IT fields for longer
> >>> than I want to admit, but I see the error of my ways and I want to
> >>> repent and be saved….. I’m considering getting Linux certification.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am interested in speaking with anyone who has gotten certified, or
> >>> can give me any details about local cert classes or testing.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Doorman352
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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