Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...NOT!

Stephen cryptworks at gmail.com
Tue May 5 09:20:48 MST 2009


back to my idea of a backup tool/image location, CDR/DVDR/USB Disk

then boot from the custom boot CD and poof. restore from backup to
Disk/Re-Partition...

heck that would make fro a nice backup tool in general...

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Ryan Rix <phrkonaleash at gmail.com> wrote:
> ok, "here put a cd-r in and we'll burn you a nice automagic installer/data
> moving thinger."
> the qubi image is just an ext3 image right? dd, baby :)
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> honestly the installer in a wubi shell would be handy, but im not sure
>> how resizeing a partition that your actively running on will work
>>
>> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Ryan Rix <phrkonaleash at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Or an app that ran from cron once a month saying "hey, you're running
>> > wubi,
>> > switch to a dual boot. Click 'Install to HDD' and we'll do this for you,
>> > making sure that Windows is set up in Grub to dual boot."
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It is true that there is not a graceful path to full lobix or linux
>> >> dual boot but its a start
>> >>
>> >> For instance a doc on how to back up then restore with a usb hdd I
>> >> think is a good place to start
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 5/1/09, Ryan Rix <phrkonaleash at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > The problem is that most users will not see the upgrade path when
>> >> > they
>> >> > are
>> >> > ready for it, leaving them at the will of the windwos boot loader
>> >> > utnil
>> >> > it
>> >> > goes kaput and their ubuntu install is at the will of a fussy ntfs
>> >> > filesystem.
>> >> >
>> >> > Imo wubi gives a new user a small paddle boat to get out to the main
>> >> > ship,
>> >> > but no ladder to climb on board once they've paddled out to the main
>> >> > ship.
>> >> > (it's midnight, sorry)
>> >> >
>> >> > Ryan
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Mark Jarvis <m.jarvis at cox.net>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Someone who has never known anything but Windoze and who wants to
>> >> >> try
>> >> >> (or
>> >> >> has been talked into trying) Linux wants to do so with an absolute
>> >> >> guarantee
>> >> >> that their precious Windoze installation won't be hurt or
>> >> >> permanently
>> >> >> affected. If Ubuntu is the trial distro, that means either a live CD
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> Wubi. As anyone who has used a live CD for any length of time knows,
>> >> >> it's
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> royal pain. The boot is slow, it runs slowly, if you want to save
>> >> >> anything,
>> >> >> you've got to be careful to save it to a flash drive, and aside from
>> >> >> what
>> >> >> you put on a flash drive, everything is new each time you boot. Wubi
>> >> >> isn't
>> >> >> perfect, but it has the live CD beat all hollow for anything more
>> >> >> than
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> short term look-see. Best of all, if you decide to either do a
>> >> >> "real"
>> >> >> install or--heaven forbid--dump it, a simple uninstall from the
>> >> >> Windoze
>> >> >> control panel gets rid of it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Live CD and Wubi are for those dipping a toe into the Linux water,
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> neither is a good solution for more-or-less permanent use. So what's
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> fuss?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -mj-
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ryan Rix wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Or, you know, a dual bootable setup is deathly easy with the ubuntu
>> >> >> installer and as was pointed out, much safer...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Matthew A Coulliette
>> >> >> <matthewlug at cox.net
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Hi,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I think wubi is a great idea.  It reminds me of the OpenCD project
>> >> >>> that
>> >> >>> had all multi-platform software on it.  The idea was to make it
>> >> >>> easier
>> >> >>> for windows and apple people to gain linux experience.  After
>> >> >>> having
>> >> >>> read this thread, I am thinking about installing it on a friend's
>> >> >>> computer.   He has never used linux before, and I think this would
>> >> >>> be
>> >> >>> a
>> >> >>> great way for him to try it out.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> MatthewMPP
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Bishmer Sekaran wrote:
>> >> >>> > If it wasn't for Wubi I'd have to use Winblows at work.
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>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Thanks and best regards,
>> >> >> Ryan Rix
>> >> >> TamsPalm - The PalmOS Blog
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>> >> >> Jasmine Bowden - Class of 2009, Marc Rasmussen - Class of 2008,
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>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >> > Thanks and best regards,
>> >> > Ryan Rix
>> >> > TamsPalm - The PalmOS Blog
>> >> > (623)-239-1103 <-- Grand Central, baby!
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>> >> > Jasmine Bowden - Class of 2009, Marc Rasmussen - Class of 2008, Erica
>> >> > Sheffey - Class of 2009, Rest in peace.
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>> >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
>> >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>> >>
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> Sheffey - Class of 2009, Rest in peace.
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A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.

Stephen


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