Zen and the Art of Knowledge or "Hack your Head" - was HackFest Series: Airodumpng

Eric Shubert ejs at shubes.net
Fri Mar 20 09:59:28 MST 2009


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Lisa Kachold wrote:
> Hack your Head
> 
> How to maintain optimal thought processing abilities in an inane liars 
> world.
> 
> When working on systems, we often get into the zone, don't eat, don't 
> stretch and don't maintain optimal glucose for thought processes.  We 
> therefore get REALLY STUPID and don't notice it.  This can happen late 
> at night, or at noon, but when it happens, we must acknowledge our own 
> limitations.
> 
> If you have attacked a problem for 30 minutes using caution, and 
> addressing resources, and cannot fix it, get up and walk around, go 
> outside look at the sun. Be assured that some part of your higher 
> functioning is still working on it in a creative way.  Poking a problem 
> for 30 hours with the same information you were unable to think with 
> initially, is not productive, it's stupid.  You might need to attempt to 
> explain the problem to another (like we do on the PLUG list) in order to 
> get clarity for instance.  We learn to package and organize abstractions 
> to develop if/then/therefore logic via PLUG list discussions, and or 
> questioning our initial assumptions.  There are a great many people who 
> never learned systems analysis using documentation, Linux veterans did 
> not have the luxury of Google (RHCE does not allow you to use anything 
> but the system itself).  Others essentially do not think in language, 
> but use higher functioning to solve problems.  All of us develop a 
> higher functional way to solve problems, but sometimes that process 
> fails and we must therefore use language or logical dissection to find 
> our way out.  We all LOVE doing this, it's incredibly addicting, but it 
> also has some mental health risks, that must be mitigated with lifestyle 
> changes. 
> 
> Be sure to follow these daily cautionary steps to remain healthy:
> 
> 1) Eat a good mix or protein, polyunsaturated fats and carbs on a 
> regular schedule.
> 2) Sports drinks are just going to make you crash badly, however, adding 
> B and C vitamins with a good breakfast, lunch and dinner will go a long 
> way toward allowing you think effectively.  Caffiene does assist with 
> some times of tunnel attention, but can also cause health issues.  The 
> best and brightest don't drink coffee all day - that's for marketing 
> people.   
> 3) When you are too tired or ill to work, you must acknowledge it.  Too 
> many systems administrators just work and work and work, over and beyond 
> what is healthy and make grave mistakes when tired. 
> 4) Build a healthy life away from computing to provide for emotional 
> balance.  We get so far into the abstract analytical virtual realm and 
> develop functional stunting, especially under the pressures of 24X7 Uptime.
> 5) Talk to others in a deep personal level; if you have noone to talk 
> to, call your own voice mail or record yourself.  Einstein and thinkers 
> of the last century all kept uber personal journals.  The mere act of 
> talking about things or examining issues through grief and anger to 
> laughter will assist development of free flowing heathy emotional states 
> and that all important core of individuality and muscled critical thought. 
> 6) Do various balanced emotional and physical things that restore your 
> individualism, such as walk/bike, laugh, and play games, hug, chase the 
> opposite sex and dream or create, and listen to music.  Allowing 
> children to swing and listen to music is known to stimulate intelligence.
> 
> The sheer number of IT professionals and college students taking SSRI 
> neurotransmitter uptake inhibiters is astounding, and certainly not 
> necessary.  Exercise has been shown to be more statistically effective 
> over time than SSRIs.  Tobacco has been long used as an anti-anxiety 
> medication, however, smoking does kill.  Anxiety from balancing 
> unrealistic, unevolved demands from people who cannot understand you 
> when you talk is best mitigated with laughter and zen detachment.
> 
> I am sure you all can relate to Number 10 on the top ways to Hack your 
> Brain http://brainz.org/brain-hacks/
> 
> O'Reilly has some good books that are an amusing way to wait for your 
> greater intelligence to find the best solution to another problem.
> 
>    1. Mind Performance Hacks: Tips & Tools for Overclocking Your Brain
>       (Hacks) by Ron Hale-Evans
>       <http://www.librarything.com/author/haleevansron>
>    2. Google Hacks: 100 Industrial-Strength Tips & Tools by Tara Calishain
>    3. On Intelligence by Jeff Hawkins
>    4. Mind Wide Open: Your Brain and the Neuroscience of Everyday Life
>       by Steven Johnson
> 5.
> 
>    6. Getting Things Done: The Art of Stress-Free Productivity by David
>       Allen
>    7. Firefox Hacks: Tips & Tools for Next-Generation Web Browsing
>       (Hacks) by Nigel McFarlane
>    8. Knoppix Hacks: 100 Industrial-Strength Tips and Tools by Kyle Rankin
>    9. How the Mind Works by Steven Pinker
>   10. This Is Your Brain on Music: The Science of a Human Obsession by
>       Daniel J. Levitin
> 
> 
> 
> Obnosis <http://www.obnosis.com/> | (503)754-4452
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> 
>  > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:20:08 +0000
>  > Subject: Re: HackFest Series: Airodumpng
>  > From: bmike1 at gmail.com
>  > To: plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>  >
>  > sorry.... sometimes I just don't think!
>  >
>  > On 3/20/09, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Mike,
>  > >
>  > > You just admitted on an international board, that you are attempting to
>  > > steal the private property key of a neighbor. Can't I tell you how 
> clueless
>  > > you appear? Your technical skills are starting to get fairly good, 
> so we
>  > > don't want you to be taken for a long timeout in jail?
>  > >
>  > > I, therefore will not help you to encroach your local neighbors WEP 
> key.
>  > > Have you tried walking over and asking the neighbor? That is 
> generally the
>  > > best approach, other than going to a coffee shop or sitting outside 
> a hotel
>  > > in the car running your notebook?
>  > >
>  > > There is a person attempting to use their accesspoint who you might be
>  > > affecting? They work and pay for their equipment? Are you 
> intelligent or
>  > > are you another zombie of inanity born of lies?
>  > >
>  > > I can suggest the verification steps for the process (from your 
> notes) in a
>  > > lab only format:
>  > >
>  > > 1) Verify that your wireless card IS on the list of those that can 
> be placed
>  > > into promiscious mode via airodump (although if you get a BSSID, using
>  > > channel 3, it might appear you are happily promiscious)?
>  > >
>  > >> airodump-ng -w capture -c 6 wifi0
>  > >> using channel (-c)
>  > >> -c 3 gets one BSSID variously flagging in contention with a second 
> channel
>  > >> 3 (contending for channel)
>  > >> wait for it to appear again but a different MAC appears. <cntrl-c>
>  > >> So I go on to the next step: I open a new shell and type
>  > >> aireplay-ng -0 10 -a <MAC> -c <I don't know my MAC>
>  > >
>  > > YOUR mac can be displayed via ifconfig
>  > >
>  > >> so I try without my MAC... to no avail! on to the next step
>  > >> aireplay-ng -3 -b <MAC> -h
>  > >> I don't know what value to put after the h.
>  > >> ARGHHHH.
>  > >
>  > > I can point you to a source for further information (for intellectual
>  > > purposes only):
>  > > http://securitytube.net/AirodumpNG-Basics-(Part-I)-video.aspx
>  > >
>  > > Again, I want to remind you that using BackTrack3/airodumpng and 
> encroaching
>  > > via a BT3/4 wireless tool is illegal, unethical and can land you in 
> jail
>  > > whereupon your only "technical tool" will be a very short dull penci
>  > >
>  > > I am happy to assist you to learn the ins and outs of technology, 
> practical
>  > > lab testing, and personal as well as production internet security, 
> but I
>  > > will not assist you to steal, or hack unethically.
>  > >
>  > > http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=2724
>  > >
>  > > Also, I would like to warn you clearly that there are people just 
> hanging
>  > > out waiting to hack you. Airodumpng has a boundary condition error that
>  > > will cause a buffer overflow. In highly congested areas 
> (Universities or
>  > > security conventions) using Airodumpng will get YOU HACKED and PWN'd!
>  > > http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23467
>  > >
>  > > If you are not hacking ethically to learn, you are simply a script 
> kiddie, a
>  > > less evolved criminal and worse. I will not write to you; you will 
> join the
>  > > many people who are awarded free ads on the back page of 2600 magazine,
>  > > writing from jail for pen pals.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Obnosis | (503)754-4452
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > PLUG Linux Security Labs 2nd Saturday Each Month at Noon - 3PM
>  > >
>  > >> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:26:40 +0000
>  > >> Subject: Re: rausb0 up
>  > >> From: bmike1 at gmail.com
>  > >> To: plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>  > >>
>  > >> youknow.... I am following the instructions given to the best of my
>  > >> ability/ (durn tool).
>  > >> airodump-ng -w capture -c 6 wifi0
>  > >> and the return line gives the BSSID PWR... etc... but there is
>  > >> nothing under them. So I think that maybe if the channel (-c) is
>  > >> changed thaaat will help. That does not help until I get to -c 3 but
>  > >> only one BSSID appearsafter 30 seconds.... and then disappears. So I
>  > >> wait for it to appear again but a different MAC appears. <cntrl-c>
>  > >> So I go on to the next step: I open a new shell and type
>  > >> aireplay-ng -0 10 -a <MAC> -c <I don't know my MAC>
>  > >> so I try without my MAC... to no avail! on to the next step
>  > >> aireplay-ng -3 -b <MAC> -h
>  > >> I don't know what value to put after the h.
>  > >> ARGHHHH.
>  > >> I am trying to crack a neighbors password for my sister in law. I use
>  > >> sprint broadband but she can't always use my computer. I'm telling you
>  > >> this so I don't waste your time if you have a problem with that:D
>  > >>
>  > >> On 3/20/09, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com> wrote:
>  > >> >
>  > >> > Mike Backtrack is a strange beast.
>  > >> >
>  > >> > Use the wireless tools in the system menu to start and stop and 
> setup
>  > >> > the
>  > >> > wireless.
>  > >> >
>  > >> > Obnosis | (503)754-4452
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> > PLUG Linux Security Labs 2nd Saturday Each Month at Noon - 3PM
>  > >> > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:24:40 -0400
>  > >> > Subject: Re: rausb0 up
>  > >> > From: bmike1 at gmail.com
>  > >> > To: plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>  > >> >
>  > >> > stranger still! This time I went 'ifconfig wifi0 down' and it 
> went down
>  > >> > but
>  > >> > 'wifi0 up' wouldn't turn it back on.
>  > >> >
>  > >> > I never learnwd how to verify the checksum. How is it done? I always
>  > >> > figured
>  > >> > that if it would load everything was good.
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Lisa Kachold 
> <lisakachold at obnosis.com>
>  > >> > wrote:
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> > Often with Backtrack3 the iso download gets schnerbed. So the 
> BT3 disk
>  > >> > boots partially on one try and completely on the next.
>  > >> >
>  > >> > It's incredibly annoying, but with any ISO burn, if it doesn't work
>  > >> > consistently, toss the disk, verify the checksum, and rebui;rn!
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> > These cards have been tested to work in BT3:
>  > >> > http://backtrack.offensive-security.com/index.php?title=HCL:Wireless
>  > >> >
>  > >> > Find your card and see the recommendations.
>  > >> >
>  > >> > # dmesg
>  > >> > # ifconfig -a
>  > >> >
>  > >> > You should see your card loaded, and you should see a device.
>  > >> >
>  > >> > #lspci
>  > >> >
>  > >> > Generally with BT3, your best bet is going to be using the Wireless
>  > >> > tools in
>  > >> > the menus, until you determine what is what.
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> > Hey also, if you are on a shared wireless network check out the 
> SMB4k -
>  > >> > be
>  > >> > careful not to get into trouble here.
>  > >> >
>  > >> > Ethical hackers learn they do not impact the systems they study, 
> (unless
>  > >> > paid) and they DO NOT GO TO JAIL!
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> > And USE THE SOURCE:
>  > >> > http://backtrack.offensive-security.com/index.php/Tools
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> > Obnosis | (503)754-4452
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> > PLUG Linux Security Labs 2nd Saturday Each Month at Noon - 3PM
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:36:03 -0400
>  > >> > Subject: rausb0 up
>  > >> > From: bmike1 at gmail.com
>  > >> > To: PLUG-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> > it is strange. after I had downloaded backtrack3 and fired it up 
> and the
>  > >> > distro automaGICALY FOUND THE WIRELESS CARD AND i HAD 
> WEB-ACCESS. the
>  > >> > two
>  > >> > subsequnt times I loaded it I didn't have web-access and that 
> left me
>  > >> > dum-founded. So I looked around and found that 'rausb0 up' is 
> the comand
>  > >> > I
>  > >> > need to use but linux told me that that wasn't the device name. So
>  > >> > please
>  > >> > tell me, what is it that is assigned to an internal wireless 
> card. How
>  > >> > should I find out if you can't tell me.
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> >
>  > >> > You know.... I just looked at what I thought the device is 
> called and
>  > >> > just
>  > >> > realived (DUHHHHH) it isn'r a USB device
>  > >> > --
>  > >> > :-)~MIKE~(-:
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