Slightly OT: Got a weird one regarding EMail logs and ISPs.

[Lisa Kachold]

> Bob Elzer wrote:
>> To show how email can be forged, you friend should create an email from
>> the
>> bad guy, confessing to the forged email, and saying he's sorry.

Here's links on how to configure your Linux mailer for Gmail SMTP gateway:


Send Mail Postfix through Gmail's SMTP on a Ubuntu LTS Server
www.marksanborn.net/linux/send-mail-postfix-through-gmails-smtp-on-a-ubuntu-lts-server/

Lifehacker - How to use Gmail as your SMTP server - Email apps
lifehacker.com/.../how-to-use-gmail-as-your-smtp-server-111166.php

Linux Home Automation - Sendmail/Gmail Fedora
www.linuxha.com/other/sendmail/gmail.html

Then:

# sudo bash
# cat boguscourt.txt | sendmail -f badguy at liars.org myaddress at goodguy.com
# tail /var/log/maillog |grep liars.org


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Jim
>> March
>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:33 PM
>> To: Tucson Free Unix Group; Main PLUG discussion list
>> Subject: Slightly OT: Got a weird one regarding EMail logs and ISPs.
>>
>> Not exactly Linux but then not exactly "not" either.
>>
>> Got a friend who got involved in a business deal that went south, now he's
>> suing.  The guy he's suing sounds like a real winner and is claiming
>> there's
>> a couple grand worth of expenses my friend never agreed to.  Except the
>> guy
>> we'll call "the bad guy" for now has what he claims is an EMail in which
>> my
>> friend authorized the expenses in question.
>>
>> The bad guy has produced this EMail for a court.  It doesn't include
>> header
>> data - just the timestamp received at COX (late Jan. 2009), to/from info
>> (allegedly from my friend's MSN.COM account to their COX.NET account),
>> subject line and text.
>>
>> He says the EMail in question is fake, he never sent it.
>>
>> They could have easily faked it any number of ways, but the header data
>> would of course be much harder to fake, and these guys ain't all that
>> smart.
>> Right now he's telling the court it's a fake EMail (under oath on his
>> part,
>> sworn declaration) and he's doing a request for document production for
>> the
>> header data.
>>
>> Now assuming he's telling me the truth and he never sent that, I would
>> assume the other side will claim they purged their electronic copy so they
>> have no header data, if they're at all smart.
>>
>> Can he ask his paid ISP (msn bleah on a dial-up account paid to them
>> gag) to show that they have no log for his outgoing mail of that subject
>> line at that time, and that there would be one if the message is fake?  I
>> would guess that as an MSN customer he doesn't need a court order to track
>> data he allegedly sent?  OR if MSN doesn't keep such logs, is it possible
>> COX does and he gets a court order for their logs, would COX keep that
>> kind
>> of thing?
>>
>> Any other thoughts on cracking this?
>>
>> I'm BCCing the friend...
>>
>> Jim
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