Must have app list, desktop edition?

[Lisa Kachold]

Good post.

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Joseph Sinclair
<plug-discussion at stcaz.net>wrote:

> This started out simple, then I noticed I hadn't "adjusted" a machine here,
> so I figured I'd take the opportunity to write down everything I end up
> changing.  I'm a bit surprised at the results.  If I had more time (a lot
> more time), I'd probably be better off rolling my own distro rather than
> depending on (Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, etc...) and doing major surgery every
> time I upgrade...
>
> Most of the packages listed below (especially the OpenJDK packages) install
> a stack of additional recommended and/or required packages.
>  VirtualBox, Mecurial, etckeeper, Bazaar, DARCS, Meld, Diffuse, F-Spot,
> VLC, K3b, EasyTag, screen, vim-runtime (vim-tiny is too irritating), VMWare
> Player, Ripper X, Epiphany-browser, Galeon, Gajim, Thuderbird, Gthumb,
> DOSBox, Wine (couple apps that only run that way), GNUCash, Asunder, hgsvn,
> id3tool, id3v2, p7zip
>
> Lots of Codecs, including:
>  flac, vorbis, theora, gstreamer-plugins-bad,
> gstreamer-plugins-bad-multiverse, gstreamer-plugins-good,
> gstreamer-plugins-ugly, gstreamer-plugins-ugly-multiverse, lame, ffmpeg,
> vorbisgain
>
> If they're not already there:
>  GIMP, Tomboy, OpenOffice.org, ABIWord, EVince, Firefox, BlueFish,
> default-jdk, openssh-server, ufw, sqlite3 sqlitebrowser, strace, tcl8.5,
> subversion, subversion-tools, lzma
>
> Stuff for working with other systems:
>  smbfs (for connecting to dumb NAS devices that don't do NFS), smbclient
> (same),
>
> Install the following by itself with --no-install-recommends or you'll pull
> in a ton of fonts you'll never use:
>  openjdk-6-jre
>
> The following make the web richer, but some people don't like them:
>  icedtea6-plugin, sun-java6-plugin, sun-java6-jre
>
> The following I nearly always install, but they consume about 2.5G with the
> hundred or so dependencies, so don't install on a small machine or if you're
> not developing in Java:
>  sun-java6-jdk, sun-java6-javadoc, openjdk-6-jdk, sun-javadb-client,
> sun-javadb-core, sun-javadb-doc, icedtea-6-jre-cacao, visualvm, rhino,
> rhino-doc, openjdk-6-source, rhino-doc, ant-doc, libbsf-java,
> libxalan2-java, javacc, junit-doc, libbcel-java-doc,
> libcommons-beanutils-java-doc, libcommons-digester-java-doc,
> libcommons-logging-java-doc, classpath-doc, libservlet2.4-java-gcj,
> libxerces2-java-doc, libxml-commons-resolver1.1-java-doc, libxsltc-java,
> libxalan2-java-doc, javacc-doc, javahelp2-doc, jetty, tomcat6, tomcat6-docs
> After installing these, be sure to remove the autostart for tomcat6 and
> jetty, unless you're planning to run a webserver.
>
> Some fairly useless things never to install, unless you're in a VM you
> don't mind getting rootkitted:
>  tomcat6-admin, tomcat6-examples
>
> Manual installs because the repos are missing or out of date (also only
> useful if you write software, although both support many languages):
>  Eclipse (have to download direct from Eclipse because Ubuntu is 2 years!
> behind, and even Fedora tends to be behind)
>  Netbeans (also out of date, but not nearly as bad as eclipse)
>
> Installed to a location under my home directory:
>  30+ scripts I wrote and use frequently
>  A couple programs I wrote a while back
>  TCLKit
>
> Removals because Ubuntu includes a bunch of garbage I'll never want or
> need:
>  About 20 fonts that are for languages I don't know (like Thai, Korean,
> Chinese, Gujarati, Minoan-C, etc...), and many of which aren't composed
> properly.
>    A partial list is (ttf-arab.* ttf-arphic.* ttf-indic.* ttf-kochi.*
> ttf-lao.* ttf-saza.* ttf-thai.* ttf-unfont.*)
>  Evolution (and as many of it's libs as I can, although gnome hard-depends
> on the worst ones...)
>  Ekiga (because it depends on a bunch of absolutely horrid libraries it
> doesn't actually use due to poor packaging definitions).
>  samba-server (I don't want to run a server for MS networking, it's a
> horrible protocol and I can get better results with almost anything else).
>
> Stuff I remove because, although some people like it, I find it useless
> and/or irritating.
>  apport, apport-gtk, app-install-data, app-install-data-partner,
> gnome-app-install, apturl, ubufox, eog, friendly-recovery, update-notifier,
> update-manager, brasero
>
> The following list is a blanket scrub because nearly all desktop distros
> dump stuff in the system that is either useless to me, or should never be
> part of a default desktop install (like Apache).
>  This list is *NOT SAFE*, and may *destroy* the usability of your system,
> so don't try to run it blind, you've been warned.
>      procmail.* bsd-mailx akonadi-server apache2.* asterisk.* bluetooth
> bluez.* claws-mail.* epiphany-browser-dbg evince-dbg evolution.*
> gnome-pilot.* guile.* jpilot.* gnome-dbg gimp-dbg kaddressbook kdepim.*
> knotes korganizer kphone kpilot libakonadi.* libc6-dbg libcurl3-dbg
> libdata-dump-perl libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl libegroupwise.*
> libedata-book.* libedata-cal.* libexchange.* libevview.* libevdocument.*
> libgoffice-dbg lib.*-dbg linphone.* mobile-.* mlock lynx.* metamail
> nautilus-dbg nautilus-sendto network-manager.* nickle ohphone oidentd
> openser.* php-pear php.* pidgin.* pilot.* postgresql.* python-dbg
> python-.*-dbg ser ser-.* siproxd smartdimmer sylpheed.* totem-dbg twinkle
> unalz ure valac vpb.* wireless.* wpa.* wwwconfig.* yate gxine libxine xine.*
>
> Stuff I wish I could remove, but improper dependencies prevent it:
>  update-notifier-common (because network-manager depends on it instead of
> recommending it)
>  wpasupplicant, wireless-crda, wireless-tools (same)
>  update-manager-core (because computer-janitor depends on it instead of
> recommending it)
>  toshset, laptop-detect, laptop-mode-tools (because acpi-support stupidly
> depends on these instead of recommending them)
>  launchpad-integration (because K3B depends on it for absolutely no reason
> at all)
>
> I also wish I could remove cups-server without loosing printing support
> (but cups isn't modular enough for that), so I just have to put in routing
> rules to ensure that only localhost can connect to it...
>
>
> Stephen wrote:
> > So what is your list of apps that you install, every time on a new
> > machine, the handful of things that you "must" have and find yoruself
> > apt-getting yum installing or emergeing?
> >
>
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