OT:Exchange good? - And the flame wars begin (Was:Re:newhotness?)

[Bryan O'Neal]

I could code to save my life, but not well enough to start a whole project.
However, for something like a sbs solution I would think the real talent
would be in just creating a distro that had solutions pre installed and
configured with a handful of questions asked during install. You would need
LDAP & KRB that could be used for single sign on for Linux, Mac, and windows
desktops. You would need Samba for file and print sharing (With ACLs). You
would need an exchange like package with cross platform clients. You would
need a substitute for SharePoint, terminal services, and a remote desktop
gateway.  You would need Apache with a wiki and a default intra company
website.  You would need something like openvpn.  You would need central
management of desktops.  After that you would just need to have easy,
integrated, management counsel.  And I am sure their a half dozen other
items I am forgetting. I could coble together most of the function, without
the central management, client computer management, SharePoint substitute,
exchange substitute, and a few others. However to get what I could replace
as one unified package is way beyond me.  It does seem that SuSE would
probably give you the closest starting point.

If anyone starts something I could probably help with some things.  I have
enjoyed my work with win/lin integration using windows as a domain
controller and would not mind taking a stab at having it work the other way.
Actually, where are SuSE and RedHat on their "domain" projects?  Anyone
know?



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[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Stephen
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:10 AM
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Subject: Re: OT:Exchange good? - And the flame wars begin
(Was:Re:newhotness?)

Honestly I would love to see a real floss solution to sbs as a whole

I have seen things close but pt quite

Maybe ill start building something as a personal project Not that I can code
to save my life.

On 2/23/09, Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 14:14 -0700, Stephen wrote:
>> This is mostly a personal prefrence discussion, but this one is a bit
>> overbaord:
>>
>> "I suppose you can justify whatever you believe to be costs as you 
>> see fit. The SBS version is by intent a hampered product to encourage 
>> adoption - sort of like the drug dealer giving the drugs away until 
>> you get hooked."
>>
>> it is mean for a company that will be of the 20-40 users and no 
>> higher than 75 users. it isnt meant as a get started now and then 
>> watch it all grow. it is meant to fill a small business niche of one 
>> server for your office covering your needs in that one box. it grows 
>> to 75 users but is really not meant for that scale. if you are going 
>> bigger then they will suggest seperate servers for those needs.
>>
>> the trick really here is on the IT consultant or professional 
>> invovled to advise them properly on the needs and their expected growth.
> ----
> I am generally 'overboard' when it comes to the notion of open source 
> or more specifically, free license software because I have this notion 
> that these distinctions actually matter to the people on this list.
>
> Even the discussions of TCO are actually besides the point when it 
> comes to free license. I'm quite certain that Microsoft has 
> commissioned a report that concludes in all instances it has a lower TCO.
>
> In only one instance have I ever recommended that a client use 
> Exchange and that was because he already owned SBS 2K3 and only had to 
> buy the Exchange licenses and because he was a mortgage broker, the 
> client software was all Windows based and things like Point are 
> hardwired to use MAPI client. Even then I felt soiled implementing it 
> - probably because I do feel that open standards and free software 
> matter far more than the initial euphoria of using Outlook. I know 
> that ultimately, they are going to pay for that choice.
>
> I apologize for expressing my dismay towards those who choose a 
> proprietary software package and disfavor open source/free license 
> alternatives. It's a particular blind spot of mine.
>
> Craig
>
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