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> Date: Tue=2C 3 Feb 2009 10:31:13 -0700
> Subject: NOT OT: re plain text vs HTML
> From: lthielster at gmail.com
> To: plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>=20
> Technomage wrote:
> >There are=2C in fact=2C a few of us (like me) who use text only readers =
for
> >various reasons (such as visual impairment) and html formatted messages
> >are definitely the bane of out existence.
> >
> >its been proper etiquette on the internet since its inception that mail
> >usually is plain text and if you wish to send media (pictures=2C etc) th=
at
> >its attached (in mime printable form). this may seem archaic=2C but it
> >generally works out well for most of us.
> >
> >now my client here can read html formatted messages=2C but the speech
> >device will not read me the output=2C instead it will read the underlyin=
g
> >source of the text (which gets noisy=2C frustrating=2C and tends to have=
 me
> >filter such without even reading it)
> >
> >I=2C for one=2C have a problem with such mails and tend to filter them i=
nto
> >the junk box. if anything important gets in there=2C its gone (if its
> >really important=2C the sender will have sent as plain text with an html
> >attachment <preferred>. this way=2C I can still read it and those with
> >extra features can use the html to their own contentment).
> >
> >sorry of I may seem a bit terse toward those using html formatted text
> >messages=2C but you folks should be aware there are almost 30 million
> >others like me and we would rather not have our lives made any harder
> >than it already is.
>=20
> Finally a good reason to use plain text as opposed to reasons to avoid
> HTML.  I confess this had not occurred to me.  I would have think that
> modern text readers would read HTML embedded text without source tags
> etc. even had I thought about it.  If there are not=2C there certainly
> need to be.  Sounds like an opportunity for someone.
>=20
> I use gmail for this list and a few other things.  gmail really has no
> formatting means for plain text which is one reason to prefer the
> "Rich formatting" option.  To even include technomages comment as
> "quoted" I had to manually insert the symbols on each line.  Other
> email clients offer more formatting tools for plain text.  Sounds like
> a suggestion to send to google.
>=20
> For most email I use Thunderbird.  Thunderbird has an option that says
> "When sending messages in HTML and one or more recipients are not
> listed as being able to receive HTML:"
> - Ask me what to do
> - Convert the message to plain text
> - Send the message in HTML anyway
> - Send the message in both plain text and HTML
>=20
> I think the last option is the default=2C but all I know for sure is
> that is what mine is set to.  I never checked whether that means it
> sends both to all recipients or separate sends for plain text
> recipients.  Would that email had something similar.
>=20
> **** Technomage=2C do you know if your reader works right for a message
> that Thunderbird sends with that 4th option?
>=20
> The Tbird address book allows you to specify for each recipient what
> format they prefer.  I notice also that the send options in
> Thunderbird allow format selection based on the destination domain.
> Mine shows a number of domains under HTML=2C but none under Plain Text
> --=20
> Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps=2C for he is the only
> animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and
> what they ought to be.
>   - William Hazlitt
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