Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet

[keith smith]

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--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com> wrote:

> From: Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>
> Subject: Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks  Emergency Control of the Internet
> To: phrkonaleash at gmail.com, "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 7:49 AM
> Back to the regulation of
> information?
> 
> We don't get to vote on this, we defrayed that when we
> voted.
> 
> What choices do we have now?  Civil disobedience?
> 
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Ryan Rix<phrkonaleash at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > mike havens wrote:
> >
> >> I think only land oners should have the right to
> vote. I do not own
> >> anything so I would not get to vote.
> >
> > White land owning men? :P
> >
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM, James Lee Bell
> >> <nuclear-cowboy at cox.net>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jason Spatafore wrote:
> >>> > Until the representatives are
> removed...we will constantly struggle
> >>> > with this so-called Democracy. Technology
> has finally caught up to
> >>> > where it can be used for a direct
> Democratic country with lower costs
> >>> > than running elections every two years.
> Now is the time to start
> >>> > implementing.
> >>> I rarely get involved in these discussions,
> preferring to lurk, but this
> >>> is a very intriguing concept that *might*
> actually be feasible and
> >>> achievable. All we have to do is figure out
> how to accomplish absolutely
> >>> unhackable authentication without violating
> every right to privacy we
> >>> hold dear.  Anybody want to hack that up by
> next Thursday? :-)
> >>>
> >>> > And yes, my first vote is to eliminate
> paper ballots and bar people
> >>> > without access to computers from
> elections. Sorry, a computer is
> >>> > available almost everywhere you go. It's
> time to grow with the times
> >>> > and move on.
> >>> I have to say I find this specific
> means-testing inappropriate just
> >>> considering simple demographics. Have we even
> broken the 50% threshold
> >>> of our eligible-to-vote citizens that could
> have access beyond dial-up?
> >>> Hey, you want to computerize (*securely*) the
> collection of votes in
> >>> such a way that folks in "flyover country
> (/sarcasm)" get to use the
> >>> mechanism without owning the device and
> infrastructure, and without the
> >>> yearly trip to Bethlehem, I'm right there with
> you. Give it 25 years,
> >>> and maybe every citizen will have some level
> of computing device to
> >>> participate. Until then...
> >>>
> >>> Just to take a philosophical hitch that'll
> probably generate a reaction
> >>> to put me back in lurk mode, I absolutely
> think there should be a simple
> >>> means test to earn voting rights: for the
> government entity in which you
> >>> are about to vote (fed, state, city), have you
> paid taxes to that entity
> >>> in x% of your eligible voting life (18+)?
> (asbestos underwear engaged
> >>> :-)).
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> >>
> >>
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