OT: Speed Cams

[Bryan O'Neal]

Just for those who may not know, a Squid is a motorcyclist who weaves in and
out of traffic
 
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=squid
 

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From: Bryan O'Neal [mailto:boneal at cornerstonehome.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:19 PM
To: 'Main PLUG discussion list'
Subject: RE: OT: Speed Cams


Of course, if we outlawed cars entirely we would never have auto
accidents...  And their would be no need to spend all that money on
understructure, of course our society based on specialization and cheep
transport would also collapse, but hey, they numbers look great ;)
 
Their is a certain amount of responsibility and risk associated with
driving, it is why you need to be licensed to do so. The fact that a camera
can not distingue between safe maneuvers (merging into open space to the
front and right) and dangerous behavior like squidding through traffic, is a
problem.

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[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Grzegorz
Furmanek
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 10:45 AM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: OT: Speed Cams


I have to concur with the other critics of speed cameras.  Any statistical 
data generated by the DPS should be carefully examined and verified 
before making conclusive statements.

I do agree speed does play a role in severity of accidents and it should
be considered a factor in decreased time for reaction, however
the bigger issue is the fact that people do not pay attention to the road
to begin with.

Some other statistics I have seen show that talking on the phone while
driving decreases the reaction time to levels of an intoxicated person.
The studies did not even mention dialing the phone.  Only talking and it
did not really matter if it was hands-free or not.

Also one may argue that putting cameras all over the place causes
people to pay more attention to spotting the cameras and less on driving
itself.  Which also is not the optimal for driving.

Just my 2 cents.


On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Eric Cope wrote:


link to those statistics?


On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Josef Lowder <joe at actionline.com> wrote:


On 4/1/09, Bryan O'Neal <boneal at cornerstonehome.com> wrote:
> I have no issue with red-light cameras, if they provide a yellow light of
> adequate length to safely stop after noticing the light change, say 5 or 6
> seconds.  As for the speed cameras, well, I am agenst speed limits and
> believe it should be safe and prudent as seen by an officer and confirmed
by
> a judge. As for the cameras in particular, no one has been able to make
> public a report showing they do anything other then annoy drivers.
Accidents

> have not gone down ...

Photo radar saves lives.  Period.

According to the Arizona State Department of Public Safety, because of photo
radar, crashes are down by 12%, injuries have been cut by 17%, and fatality
collisions are down by 29% on Phoenix-area highways.

No clear-thinking person would want to eliminate photo radar simply because
of their personal desire to want to disregard and disobey highway speed
laws.

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