Please stop

[Tony E - Jaraeth]

Agreed, but sadly, even after your email it continued. I can't sit back
any longer. Since the self moderation isn't working, as Alan has asked
of people in whatever nice form he has, I can only do what is best, quit
complaining myself and leave.  Nothing permanent, mind.  Though, if I
wanted an "anything goes" mailing list, I wouldn't have joined this
LUG.  AFAIK, "LUG" stands for Linux Users Group, and that's what I came
here expecting.  I don't thoroughly enjoy watching and reading the off
topic crud going on. 

IMHO, "OT" or "Off Topic" discussion should be inquiries about FreeBSD,
general administration practices, or anything that may not necessarily
have to do with Linux, but still have something to do with OSS, Free
Software, interacting/connecting to Linux or any other form of systems
administration, development and "geekiness".  There is *nothing* geeky
about putting people down and demoralizing, defaming and otherwise
putting another person down for their opinions.

But I digress.  I'll leave my frustration at the door. After all, I'm
free to form perhaps another LUG for the Valley with at least some sense
of direction and goal for a group as a whole instead of being vague and
hoping beyond all hopes that people have a modicum of decency to know
when enough is enough and to self-moderate themselves.  I'll check the
archives later on in time, and see if it's worth coming back.

Ciao,

  Tony E
  "Raptus regaliter"
  jaraeth at phoenixwing.com
  http://www.phoenixwing.com/



Micah DesJardins wrote:
> Dear PLUGers,
>
> I've sat back. I've been patient and quiet. I have not put forward my
> political or religious beliefs.  I have refrained from name calling,
> slander, and prophecies of doom and/or salvation.  This conversation
> has spilled over into half a dozen threads and is neither fruitful nor
> relevant to Linux/Unix or Open Source.  We need to remember why we are
> here in the first place: To share our enthusiasm and interest for
> Linux and Open Source in general.  There are a lot of intelligent and
> generous people who frequent this list and I would hate to lose out on
> their guidance and experience because we could not see past our
> differences and remember our similarities.  Your religious beliefs are
> your business as are your political views.  If I wanted to discuss
> either with you, I would have joined a political / religious mailing
> list.  Please be respectful of one another.  I don't have a problem
> with people disagreeing.  The beauty of a difference of opinion is
> that both parties have the opportunity to look at something in a way
> they had not previously considered.  Whether either party chooses to
> do so isn't so much important.  There is however an art to
> constructive difference of opinion.  I'd like to think that name
> calling, slander, and personal abuse have no place on this list.   My
> issue is that you have taken things so far afield that there's really
> no point in reading PLUG if I have to wade through 80+ posts on things
> I don't care about to get to the 5 things I have interest in.  Please
> keep PLUG Geeky, and leave your political and religious issues at the
> door.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Micah DesJardins
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